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▲ shooly 10 hours ago

I think you forgot the #sponsored tag.

There is no reason why gamers should be OK with use of AI to make games - AI doesn't solve any problems currently haunting the industry, it only exacerbates existing problems. If people were suddenly OK with AI in games, games won't get better - they will get even worse.

▲flyingpenguin 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Nah man I hate what AI has done to my job. But I think people outside of major tech don't realize how far down the path we are.

I remember I was on a call with a client about a new product we put out which hosts modules of their code on our system, and we were talking about AI and they were asking how they should separate their AI made prototypes with their hand made production items, because obviously stuff that makes it to production obviously has to be remade by humans.

There was a long silence, then someone on my team said no developer had ever once opened a IDE on the entire production product we had built and they where using. Development began 2 years ago and by that time not one developer out of 2,000 at my company was using IDEs.

I am not saying you need to be "OK" with the use of AI to make games. I am saying your "OK" doesn't matter, it will happen. If you fight the lost cause you can delay it, but then you will have no control over how the world looks once the fight is over. Don't get caught up in the fight to prevent it, look for a future compromise you are happy with and work on shaping that future.

This isn't the first time something like this happened, and we can see the results of hoping for it to go away. The invention of the car was full of people who wanted to ban cars, and eventually they lost and we now have tons of car dependent hell holes... What all of those people should have focused on was making sure the laws/regulations/patterns/thoughts around cars were healthy and balanced so that the car future would be healthy and balanced. Instead, they where all or nothing, and once they lost, they no longer had any say in what happened and cars broke through to very little resistance beyond no/yes.

▲shooly 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't know what is so difficult for you to understand in "just because you enjoy selling trash, doesn't mean I or others enjoy selling trash too"?

If your company managed to find an executive to pay for your trash - fine, this literally happens all the time, every day and happened before AI too - B2B software is widely known to be lowest quality software available. Your and your colleagues' job is to produce as much code as possible, in the shortest timeframe possible for the lowest possible price. In that context it's no wonder you all happily use AI, you work on slop, so a machine allowing you to produce even more slop even faster is a godsend.

It's much more difficult to get people to use your software if they don't have an idiot manager above them forcing them to use it or when there's real market competition.

▲satvikpendem a minute ago | parent | next [-]

The market forces will be such that everyone will sell "trash" in the future, otherwise they can't compete. And I will say "trash" charitably even though much of the code written by AI is already better than most human programmers.

▲cindyllm 33 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

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