This is them sneaking in taking the Claude Agent SDK (claude -p) off of subscription plans through the back door along with a model release. They previously wanted to do this in June, but backpedaled after huge backlash:

https://support.claude.com/en/articles/15036540-use-the-clau...

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tekacs 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I hope people notice again that this is happening this time around.

Being forced through the non-OSS Claude Code with all of its quirks and issues is... such an exhausting use of force by Anthropic.

To the extent that you _can_ choose to disable telemetry and training on your traces in CC, it's not all that obvious what they gain by crippling your ability to use the subscription with other – better – tools.

It's also remarkable that it's coincident with OpenAI adding "Sign in with OpenAI", so that you can use your tokens with other tools.

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eli 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The page does not say anything about changing the way Agent SDK bills. I just tested Agent SDK and nothing has changed (yet).

You might be right and they will change this in the future, but that's speculative

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thepasch 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> Claude Max and Team plans now include monthly API credits, which cover the Claude Agent SDK, the Claude API, and Claude Managed Agents.

This text has replaced the entirety of the page called "Use the Claude Agent SDK with your Claude plan."

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eli 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes. Previously the page was all about how they were going to start charging for Agent SDK use with a banner on the top saying that, actually, they weren't going to do that.

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thepasch 2 hours ago | parent [-]

...yes, a banner which has also now disappeared and been replaced, with the explicit mention that API credits "cover the Claude Agent SDK"?

What more do you need?

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eli 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Well, it doesn't currently work that way on the latest SDK. If there's a change coming, it hasn't happened yet.

	▲	thepasch 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The monthly credit allocation hasn't rolled out yet either, so as of right now, we're effectively at the status quo. I'd expect the billing change to land once you can actually collect your Claude Console account.

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cjav_dev 19 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How credits work with `claude -p` is a common question. we're updating the faq now to make sure it's more clear

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sanex 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Those mfers. I'm using this for work! I use my work teams plan with pi so I can do all kinds of custom workflows that I can't in Claude Code. Time to convince management I need OpenAI instead.

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stsch 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Time to convince management (and yourself) to build some skills. :)

	▲	sanex 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Spent many years building skills, I'm just working on a different level now.

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sambaumann 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Even after the June changes there was some allowance to use agent SDK on the pro plan. This will move me to codex tomorrow if agent SDK is really blocked on pro

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vmg12 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

These are api tokens, you can build a business with them using any harness.

	▲	tekacs 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yes, but they're wildly lower in value than the corresponding subscription usage.

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luketaylor an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nothing is being removed as part of this!

	▲	winwang 38 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		*For now. If a company were to degrade something, it shouldn't be so obvious that the "goodwill" was just a reallocation. Just a good strategy. For example, it allows them to claim that they're "just going from 150% to 125% usage allowance, which is still more than 100%".

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martinald 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do we know if claude -p is now drawing from this API usage?

	▲	cjav_dev 18 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		How credits work with `claude -p` is a common question we're seeing. we're updating the faq now to make sure it's more clear. Will share updated docs soon
	▲	ziga 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Not yet, as of version 2.1.293. But I suspect this is coming next.
	▲	thepasch 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		That's what the Agent SDK is, according to this help page: https://code.claude.com/docs/en/headless So, as written, yes.

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