| ▲ | username_my1 2 hours ago |
| wasn't there an algo developed that would use wifi signal as a way to detect humans / movements even behind walls. I imagine that would be a neater solution. if all what you need is a wifi receiver. |
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| ▲ | stingraycharles 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Absolutely, maybe 15 years ago, and it was / is used by shops to detect recurring visitors and get a better understanding of their behavior. It’s also why anonymization of wifi started being pushed by Apple et al, which still does provide a stable client id but that’s only being broadcast as part of the DHCP handshake, which cannot be used here. |
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| ▲ | ale42 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | There's also much more recent research where you can actually track the position of people by the changes to the Wifi signal. Passive monitoring only, no device involved. See https://github.com/Saad-Imtiaz/WiFi-Sense for example (first thing I found by looking up now, never tried myself). | |
| ▲ | wildzzz an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You could look for Bluetooth MACs instead but those too are randomized. Are any other vendors randomizing Bluetooth MACs? Maybe that's what they detect, MACs that don't go to any known vendor. | |
| ▲ | cucumber3732842 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | For years starting in the late teens and fizzling out over covid university paper after university paper about "this is so cool look how we can see through walls by essentially using 5g and wifi as ambient light" and they steadily marched up the chain from simple room layouts to furniture layouts, occupant detection, occupant movement and then started being dressed up with the usual dogwhistle language about "emergency services" that people who are building tech to help infantry/police entry teams use to make it seem more noble and then after that it all just kinda stopped being publicized with any sort of regularity? To me that says that the tech got good enough all those people got hired to make it production worthy behind closed doors. |
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| ▲ | nickorlow an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| yes -- I think xfinity uses it to implement this: https://www.xfinity.com/hub/smart-home/wifi-motion |