Am I the only one that feels repulsed by this kind of offerings?

Im not sure how to justify the feeling. Maybe it's that I expect more than entertainment out of creative works (which I consider games to be), but this... Corporate slop firehose seems fundamentally empty in a way that raises goosebumps, like a black mirror episode.

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efields 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I was repulsed too at first, but honestly cheap build-your-own-video-game tools have been out there since the 90s at least. This is just the modern version. Fine.

I could see microgames creep into social media feeds maybe. That's what this allows for. Games that might be novel for a few minutes. Some folks will put in the effort to make a modern multi-hour game here but very few, like their player-base.

Also, prototyping! Maybe it's good for that (just don't share it publicly).

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AIblemblio 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nope.

We are in the ara of commoditization and we just have to learn handling it.

And its not just AI 'slop' making it so, its also A LOT of peole having acess to so much more.

The indiegame scene got crazy. As soon there is one new game concept, hundreds of small adjustments to this idea are popping up.

The sorting game thing? Has now a lot of clones/variations.

AI adds more of this for sure, but its not the underlying issue.

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argentinian 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is just your interpretation. AI will eventually be used to produce any kind of media or product that humans can think of.

If you are disgusted by this, the resources spent on AI adult content would make you mad. But why judge what other people choose to do.

There's an episode of President Curtis where USA is running out of energy and the final solution is to (spoilers) tax AI porn.

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torben-friis 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't care at all about AI being used for porn, or ads, or corporate videos, that kind of stuff is soulless by definition.

And I don't have a problem with AI _assistance_ in creative work either.

What horrifies me is the picture of someone absentmindedly placing a half formed thought into a textbox and people consuming it, no deep thinking at all involved in neither creators nor users. It's the mental equivalent of the wall-e humans.

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AIblemblio 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

When do you draw a line then?

I had an idea for a small game for ages, never the time for it and now i'm vibing on it randomly because its fun.

How much finetuning/prompting would you allow me until you think its reasonable? One prompt? Or a certain amount of resources i put in?

Don't get me wrong, i'm curious on when you think a certain quality is reached. I ask this myself too. Like i have a lot of experience in the area of game development, game mechanics, programming and usability. Now the game itself i adjust constantly because i have a lot of strong opinions.

But will this ever be something i might release for free and people get a benefit out of this?

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torben-friis an hour ago | parent [-]

It's a fair question, and I don't have a clear answer.

I do think I have a general principle, which is: once we have a new capability, we can use it to reach further or to reach the same places with less effort. Reaching further seems objectively good; reaching the same places with less effort is more of a gray area.

I realise there's an argument for democratization, for reducing friction to put creativity in the hands of more people. Say you're a great artist who could make beautiful games but don't know how to code, you might use AI as a crutch to enable you to express your art. Same if you're a coder or have great ideas about game design but don't have graphics available to make the whole product happen.

If AI is covering all fronts though, we're throwing the baby with the bathwater here. There's no talent allowed to shine, no message that can now be better delivered, no idea better expressed. it's all wrapping.

and notice how the message from google is not 'reach more people', or 'let your talent shine'. The message is 'type a whim from your couch and you'll get it instantly'. Quick empty dopamine, no quality involved.

	▲	AIblemblio an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I agree partially aabout your google view but it just might be the first easy thing someone plays around with and gets motivated to dive deeper.

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argentinian 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Many people do many absent minded activities with no deep thinking. Social Media sites are now in a big part about that, feeding pointless low effort distraction.

You may analyze why do people seek such a thing and feel compassion. and what should humans do instead? Why? Is there an objective answer?

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sham1 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's honestly both very funny as well as very sad that one of the most unbelievable aspects of that is them taxing the AI pornography industry. Given that being a Rick&Morty spinoff means that Prez Curtis has plenty of outlandish aspects to it already, yet suspending one's disbelief about an industry actually getting taxed kinda goes over the limit.