Feel like eventually ai will get so good people will just autogenerate games just for themselves. Same for movies/shows/etc.

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hebetude an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I know 10 year olds already doing this. It’s great. Remove the barrier to imagining your own games !

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saturn8601 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well isn't Roblox kinda this? I play it all the time with my niece and nephew...it sucks, its enshittification to the max. Part of an entertainment property is you are devoting time to enjoying the creative process of someone who put in the effort to produce something polished and with effort. The end result is the culmination of all the work done (possibly years/decades) to get to that point and you are paying for the result of all that effort. Could a Roblox game be like that? Possibly but the incentives dont seem to be as aligned despite the democratizing force it has had.

I am reminded of a scene from the Jobs movie where they were arguing Open vs Closed systems. This feels similar...

[1]:https://youtu.be/TYvXOHAJTiU?t=81

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Forgeties79 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why on earth would anyone watch that nonsense? Who cares if it’s even cohesive. It’s the bedrock of “derivative.”

Ugh I know the answer but it’s just sad. I don’t want all media to become cotton candy.

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john01dav an hour ago | parent [-]

I could in principal see something that isn't clearly entirely derivative, like if a person takes their own original thought and uses generative AI to make it into a video instead of, for example, learning animation and animating it or finding (probably amateur) actors to film it with. This of course still has some derivative aspects that may be easier to avoid than in the non-generative-ai case, but it is also clearly distinct from a 100% generative AI case.

For example, ever since roughly the mid 2010s when I finished Star Trek: Enterprise, I've been thinking about someone using some sort of generative AI to complete this series, once its good enough to be entirely convincing.

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bevr1337 an hour ago | parent [-]

AI generated Star Trek is an oxymoron. Gene Roddenberry's ghost stirs the longer we even consider the idea.

Two quotes from Star Trek "The Ultimate Computer" - a very prescient episode.

KIRK There are certain things men must do to remain men. Your computer would take that away.

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BONES Compassion. That's the one thing no machine ever had. Maybe it's the one thing that keeps men ahead of them. Care to debate that, Spock?

SPOCK No, Doctor. I simply maintain that computers are more efficient than human beings, not better.

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ButlerianJihad an hour ago | parent [-]

There is an AI-generated YouTube series/channel called "TK-42 Greg" that follows the life of a hapless Star Wars stormtrooper as he pursues a career of menial jobs, unemployment and drifting about a galaxy far, far away.

It's dumb and derivative and isn't getting a lot of laughs from me, but at the same time, it is freakishly realistic, and absolutely ripping off every character and scene and locale of the Lucas series.

I don't know how long it will last against Disney's DMCA juggernaut, but the "Imperial HR Lady" is way funnier and she just has to throw on a turquoise necklace and grating accent.

Speaking of self-vibe-coding games, I wouldn't see the point. When I was a younger boy, I did write games for myself, and it was an arduous project that was mostly aimed at teaching myself programming rather than gaming per se. And eventually the big didactic moments were hacking someone else's game code in terms of debugging and extending it, and that was more exciting than building my own from scratch.

Also, copyright is an issue! If consumer AI could ignore copyright and just code me, say, "Freecell but it's Harry Potter" or "Put me in the cockpit of a Y-Wing video game!" then it'd be exciting. People pay big bucks and invest big bucks for in-universe games of certain franchises like that. But AI won't provide for the consumer in this way, ever.

Much of the joy of gaming for me, is seeing a polished product that is well-balanced in terms of rules and fairness, and has good sound/graphic assets, and challenges or surprises me in novel ways as I go along. I don't think I would mind if someone else vibe-codes a game for me to play, if it's good enough and engaging, but it seems that designing/coding one for myself would feel empty and unfulfilling. And I wouldn't apply the same principle to utility software, but really I'd rather not invest a lot of time in building an office suite for myself, rather than just grabbing it off the shelf.

	▲	ndriscoll 15 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I've had AI make little learning games, coloring stories, etc for my kid. I and it absolutely will ignore copyright. So far it's never objected. It'll also happily reverse engineer binaries, extract art assets, whatever.

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asdaqopqkq 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Already happening on insta and tiktok with genAI stuff, people are creating a lot of funny stuff