This comment could not have been more stereotypically American. I stress "stereotypical", I'm obviously not saying Americans in general are like this.

> I don't like Trump. But how has he weakened privacy rights?

Attacks on rule of law and civil liberties have increased, and the right to privacy is one of those liberties. It's of course not limited to Trump, he wasn't in office when Snowden showed the world the scale of American mass surveillance on domestic and foreign citizens.

> Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

I'm totally unsure what you are attempting to imply. That mass surveillance by the American state stopped at some point in the last 10 years?

> Allies spy on each other. The Europeans do it to each other massively and have done since the dawn of Europe. Good lord, go read some history.

What does that even mean "read history" ahaha. Espionage != mass surveillance. You do understand the difference, do you not?

> thanks for the classic European condescension

> I consider Europe to be dominated by happenings in DE + FR + UK. I don't care what Latvia does.

l m a o. Oh say can you see...

> This comment could not have been more stereotypically American.

Of course. As I noted before, dripping in European condescension. Nothing you can actually point to, just condescension from a region that has been left behind over the past century.

> Attacks on rule of law and civil liberties have increased, and the right to privacy is one of those liberties. It's of course not limited to Trump, he wasn't in office when Snowden showed the world the scale of American mass surveillance on domestic and foreign citizens.

Which right or in what way has the right to privacy been attacked? Fully agree with you on attacks on rule of law. And I find Trump incredibly dangerous. But I do not think privacy in the US today has suffered. Please educate me.

> I'm totally unsure what you are attempting to imply. That mass surveillance by the American state stopped at some point in the last 10 years?

I am not implying anything. The Freedom Act curtailed a bunch of activities. You are implying nothing has changed. All of the Snowden revelations implicated many European countries: intelligence agencies spying on each others populations. I am asking you if you believe nothing has changed in the US do you 1) have any evidence of this and/or 2) believe that anything has changed in Europe? You've answered neither.

> What does that even mean "read history" ahaha. Espionage != mass surveillance. You do understand the difference, do you not?

Do you understand that the mass surveillance of European people was done at the behest of the intelligence agencies of those countries? And ditto for the NSA. The agreement was "you spy on mine and I'll spy on yours and we'll swap the intel". I am not talking about espionage. Foreign intelligence agencies spying on foreigners...what did you think they did?

> l m a o. Oh say can you see...

God, it's so painful. Yes in the same way that you talk about the US as a monolith and not 50 individual states. You don't care what Rhode Island does any more than I care what Latvia does.

Christ you guys are insufferable. It's no wonder everyone is leaving in droves.