> Perhaps you should do some reading on the matter?

Perhaps you should: https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/2026/10/2.html

> Singleton’s implication was clear. Muse could have read Aten’s Messages communications only if he had enabled both settings, and if so, the columnist had only himself—and certainly not Meta—to blame.

Indeed, and it looks like Aten absent-mindedly did all of this!

> Meta has a long history of not respecting boundaries once something is technically possible.

It's not technically possible for Muse to read the Messages db without Full Disk Access. Aten denies having given FDA to Muse. Thus, Aten is simply wrong, misremembering or something. And if he misremembers about FDA, he likely also misremembers about granting app-level permissions to Muse.

Again, literally nobody has reproduced Aten's experience. Show me one other person.

In fairness, Aten behaved just like many other users would, mindlessly granting permissions that an app requests. That's certainly a problem. Unfortunately, Aten stubbornly refuses to admit this, instead confusing the problem by suggesting technical impossibilities. Aten doesn't want to take any responsibility for his own actions.

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GeekyBear 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Indeed, and it looks like Aten absent-mindedly did all of this!

Since Aten has clearly said he did not grant Muse the permission to read his messages (inside Muse), I'm not accepting your version of the events.

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lapcat 2 hours ago | parent [-]

So you prefer to accept the version of events where Aten somehow stumbled upon a macOS security vulnerability that allows apps without Full Disk Access to read the Messages database, a vulnerability that nobody else has reproduced and that Apple itself apparently doesn't recognize? Just because one writer said so?

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cloudfudge 35 minutes ago | parent [-]

If what the writer said was strictly true, Apple would be having a little security freakout about how Muse managed to bypass this OS control. My assumption is that the writer did not understand everything he was granting it permission to do, so he legitimately believes that he didn't grant it those permissions. But he did.

	▲	GeekyBear 20 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Apple's statement is that the permission is being abused to do things that users do not think are possible. In this case, Meta explicitly promises that Muse will not read your messages even after you grant it disk permissions.

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givinguflac 13 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Lmfao you tell someone to read and then post your own opinionated blog post? I would reiterate that you need to read, perhaps outside your own bubble.