I wondered if there would be a Qwen 4 or we would go straight to 5, re: tetraphobia, but perhaps it's more like an uno reverse card in this case

DeepSeek being Chinese also has 4 so I don't think it's a big deal for model makers.

	▲	verdverm 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		GLM moved through their 4-series without consequence I wonder if the next DS models will also graduate to 5.x, I think I saw they are training up a 10T model, and just raised $12B too