I'm pretty sure, the training/fine tune through Claude/OpenAi would not be possible without the army/China's hacking teams (and legal protection). So it's more than just a cheap electricity.

Supporting deepseek is just like supporting the Chinese army, no need for that. Though it goes both ways, OpenAi subscription just lowers the cost of the US army as well.

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ndriscoll 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sorry, are you saying that it's a subsidy that it's legal for them to distill other models, or what? It's not even clear that there's any kind of protection for models in Western countries. Why would they be worried about the legality of distillation? And what does the army have to do with distilling models? Like you're saying it's a subsidy that China protects their borders from invasion by the US?

It's not a subsidy for the Chinese to say they're going to ignore our IP laws. It's a subsidy for us to say we're going to make them and try to push them on the world. It's literally granting a monopoly by legal force. It's very obviously not aligned with the interests of the American people, while China releasing things in the open is.

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ismael_rr 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Same with the US legal system protecting Anthropic from copyright laws from all the books and other stuff used for pretraining...

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IOT_Apprentice 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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sys32768 5 hours ago | parent [-]

China also has a very "rational" approach to dissidents, Tibetan activists, Uyghurs, Hong Kong pro-democracy activists, and Taiwan.

	▲	Danox 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		In the US, it’s only a matter of time before El Presidente decides to take away those reservations from the Indians and sell them off and the same goes for Camp Pendleton in Taco’s favorite American state.

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metobehonest 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>Supporting deepseek is just like supporting the Chinese army

Good, where do I sign up? At least they aren't exploding little children and generating chaos in the oil market.

https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/anthropi...

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stickfigure 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I want you to come here and apologize in public when Xi starts bombing Taiwan like he's promising.

	▲	Danox 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I want the current president who has lost his mind to apologize to two California cities.
	▲	metobehonest 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		As bad as casualties get in a future war like that, it's still very likely to be a symmetric war where the main targets are military infrastructure. No systematic annihilation of universities, hospitals, religious sites, journalists and health workers like certain genocidal regimes backed by the tech oligarchies have been doing. https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/06/israeli-atta... https://www.unesco.org/en/articles/unesco-presents-assessmen... I want you to publicly say that this turtle biologist and this journalist are Hamas: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/20/mona-khalil-tu... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/23/lebanon-journa...