Or more likely, they're burning cash trying to chase the AI train to no avail while their core product stagnates, which is definitely not a good thing.

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moomin an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Oh, they don't need a reason to let the core product stagnate. They've been doing that for years.

	▲	poncho_romero an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The war in Ukraine and subsequent move to Czechia did seem to hurt them pretty badly, but I wouldn't say they are stagnant. I've been a happy customer of PHPStorm for years and it continues to improve.
	▲	FeloniousHam an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I only use their DataGrip product. Compared to the competition they are iterating at lightspeed.

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sofixa 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Tbf their core product is at risk by everyone and their mom having an "AI IDE" product.

	▲	bakugo 12 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		If your existing, well-established product is at risk due to new, competing products that do things in radically different ways, immediately dropping your product to chase the competition from way behind is usually not the right move. Unless you have a significant moat around your ecosystem, what reason do users have to adopt your inferior copy instead of the thing you copied? I firmly believe JetBrains would have a better chance of survival if they stopped chasing the AI hype and got back to work on their IDEs, accepting the fact that they'll have less users than before. Right now, they're completely lost.

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echelon an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

There won't be anyone left to pay for the core product.

Coding by hand is for dinosaurs.

JetBrains needs to figure out the AI workflow that developers will be using over the next decade. Assuming that's going to be a big enough market, of course. A bigger market might be to build for agents and completely autonomous use cases.

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Bridged7756 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

IDEs are for professionals. I understand that LLMs can one shot a weather app, and I get that it's exciting, but this is not the case with complex software.

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fg137 33 minutes ago | parent [-]

I agree with you in principle but I am seeing my colleague who supposedly is an experienced engineer just sends out 40-file PRs without going through the code. When someone asked why the code does a certain thing he used LLM to come up with an answer. Apparently he has no idea what the code is doing and I doubt he reviews any of it or cares.

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phoghed 22 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, welcome to the new world. This is how things are now. Every couple months the models and tools get better, while everyone keeps assuring themselves that any day now they’re going to run into the wall. Whether we like it or not, this is how it is. Let go and let Claude.

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bakugo 20 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't understand what the value proposition of such an employee is. If all you're doing is acting as a meat proxy between your manager and your AI, why does your role even exist? Why shouldn't your superiors just prompt the AI directly?

	▲	cosmic_cheese 4 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I agree. Even in the era of LLMs, part of one’s job as a software developer is to understand the codebase and how it works and be able to fix bugs and add features without breaking other things in the process or comprising quality or security. If you’re not doing that and just blindly committing whatever code the LLM generates without so much as glancing at it, you’re not adding any value and there’s a good chance that with a little initial guidance, the janitor could perform your prompt-jockeying about as well.
	▲	fg137 5 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		The management cares more about "this dude ships things" than "this dude ships things that are maintainable". Whether someone else will be left cleaning up the mess (I have been in that position) is a separate question.

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bakugo 36 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

This yours?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49958850