Engineers abandoning IDEs or did they burn a ton of cash on AI?

SkyPuncher an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I have paid out of pocket for Jetbrains for 15 years. I don’t think I’ve opened it in the past year and should probably cancel my subscription.

For me, the things that made Jebteains great just don’t matter anymore.

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kugelblitz an hour ago | parent [-]

What do you use then?

I still use it a lot for reviewing the code.

	▲	cbg0 43 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		You'll be surprised (or not) to find out a lot of people aren't using anything. Claude gets asked to build it, then some other clown uses their copy of Claude to do the PR review and then it gets merged.
	▲	KptMarchewa an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		It is a good code viewer but way too heavy if you want to switch between branches often on a sufficiently large product.

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1899-12-30 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

given that their revenue is still increasing, I'm guessing it's the latter

	▲	onionisafruit an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Their revenue is increasing, but their profits have been on a decline despite increased revenue. The table on that page only goes back to 2021, but the trend of increasing revenue and decreasing profits has been going on at least that long. I don’t think ai would have been a factor that far back. Even though github copilot did launch sometime around then, I doubt it was much of a factor.

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mrweasel an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What stands out to me is https://www.helgilibrary.com/companies/jetbrains/total-cash-...

I have no idea what that contains, but it appears to be a rather large dip, compared to previous years. Overall it's not really that interesting without context and commentary from JetBrains.

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InsideOutSanta an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I find IntelliJ IDEA a great tool, even for my fully vibecoded apps. I edit the READMEs in it, look at the version history, use it for debugging, for builds, and so on.

My guess is that people aren't abandoning their IDEs. Their market is probably growing. I suspect they're burning money on subsidized inference, just like everybody else.

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patadura an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Like or not, LLM are getting better a debugging than humans... Not sure for how long will companies will keep paying for IDEs (which, tbf, are peanuts compared to the LLM cost).

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ThatPlayer an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why not both?

If engineers are abandoning IDEs then shouldn't they be following the engineers?

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romanovcode 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Both

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vachina an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The truth is there is no money to be made from (good) offline software.