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▲ tonyhart7 2 hours ago

I read all of that and other resources online and still couldn't understand why the hell we need to build that and especially in south pole antartica

▲joshvm 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Neutrinos need a large detector volume for efficiency because they interact so rarely. You can’t detect them directly so you need a transparent medium to detect their collision byproducts. Good detector mediums are water and ice, and are underground to minimise background light. There are relatively few places you can do this. Mine caverns and under the sea are the most common, but marine detectors are notoriously hard to build. Francis Halzen proposed using ice. At the Pole, the glacial plateau is 2 miles high and the breakthrough was confirming that the ice is in fact highly transparent if you go deep enough.

Why the pole specifically? You could probably build a second IceCube 100 miles away, but how are you going to get that materials there? Pole has a skiway for large aircraft and infrastructure to house a large number of people. The traverse (SPoT) only became operational near the end of construction - the initial holes were drilled in 2005 and almost everything had to be flown in.

Telescope In The Ice does a great job of explaining the history and science behind the experiment.

▲Intermernet 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The best science comes from areas that have no obvious use. The original insights into nuclear physics, quantum physics and relativity were all pure thought experiments. They led to the world we live in.

I'm personally very happy that we're still funding science that isn't obviously monetised.

The reason for Antarctica is that it's the only place you find cubic kilometres of stable ice that doesn't drift around.

▲whizzter an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My best guess would be just the remoteness.

1: Ice-mass that isn't contaminated by atomic testing fallout (if the ice has been there since the 40s it's without radioactive waste (faschinating to read about how WW2 wrecks is a prime resource of steel since it's a huge amount of steel without trace amounts of radionucletiods from testing fallout).

2: No current interference (nuclear power, radiowaves,etc) creating possible test uncertainties.

3: I'm sure there are other reasons

The negative naturally is cost, but since the expriment succeeded it will probably be useful for any attempts to send robots or even humanity into space beyond the solar system.

▲mr_mitm 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Where else would you go look for a cubic km of ice?

▲erk__ 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Greenland, though that is probably not much better in any measurable way, when it comes to transport.

▲walrus01 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Another option that's been popular is to get it as deep underground as possible, hard rock mines with empty areas:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudbury_Neutrino_Observatory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNO+

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-Kamiokande

There's a weird overlap in engineering and physics disciplines between the hard engineering/business practices of the mining industry, and particle physics.

▲trebligdivad 33 minutes ago | parent [-]

Right, but for those they need to make/move/collect a large amount of transparent material, like heavy water etc for the particles to interact with. But they get that 'for free' with the ice.

▲bananasbandanas 38 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Logistics is much easier for Greenland, but the optical properties of the ice are not as good as at the south pole.