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▲ i4k 5 hours ago

So it's the user's fault in your opinion?

▲zahlman 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm not trying to assign blame. I'm only saying that the result is completely expected.

In practical terms, the legal system probably isn't built to withstand blaming the user. I'd like to advocate that everyone who can do something should try to do their part, though.

▲ajam1507 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If someone generates an image with a signature on it and doesn't share it, what harm does that do?

When the user shares it, that is when reputational harm becomes an issue.

▲FrancisMoodie an hour ago | parent [-]

> If someone generates an image with a signature on it and doesn't share it, what harm does that do?

It is not "someone" who is generating this image with a signature, it is a product of a company that has ingested the entirety of all human work without paying anything towards all the people who created that work that is creating this image. Of course it is now an issue of this same company that they are using watermarks and signatures of people who created works this product is being trained on.

Companies are not people. And you can't go and ingest all text that has ever been created (and digitized) without paying anything without now facing some scrutiny over how you are rearranging that body of data and selling it back us.

We are being sold the idea that this product is going to replace everything, AGI is here, ASI on the horizon, but it can't understand that when you generate an image it cannot take the signature/watermark from the training data? And it is now the fault of the user who prompted the image creation (not the watermark creation)? Bullshit.

▲holden_nelson 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not the GP but - I am down to shit on AI as much as the next guy but yeah this is clearly the users fault.

A technology being flawed does not absolve its users of responsibility. To the contrary, it amplifies it.

▲dragonwriter 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> but yeah this is clearly the users fault.

> A technology being flawed does not absolve its users of responsibility.

It may not absolve the users of responsibility that they actually have, but that doesn't change that the entity making and selling the technology is to blame for its flaws, not the user.