| ▲ | jameson 6 hours ago |
| I'm certain if I drew a cartoon and used the signature that looks just like a real cartoonists', I would get sued and liable for the damage. The same should apply to LLM vendors. |
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| ▲ | crazygringo 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Not unless you actually tried to sell it for money. If you just draw a cartoon with a fake signature, nobody is coming after you. Even if you posted on Twitter or something, nobody is coming after you. You'd have to be fraudulently selling it in a book of cartoons or on coffee mugs or something. |
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| ▲ | Barrin92 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | >Even if you posted on Twitter or something, nobody is coming after you. Are you sure about that one? Are you saying if you posted say, a racist cartoon on twitter, and you forge my signature onto the thing, I can't come after you? I don't know about the US but here in Germany the category for this is personality rights. The entire point of a signature is to establish authenticity, using someone's likeness or identity without consent will get you into deep trouble even without money being exchanged. | | |
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| ▲ | blackoil 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If you publish it, no issue in drawing anything for personal use. Same with AI One who published will be liable. |
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| ▲ | Pxtl 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Laws are for poor people |
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| ▲ | gruez 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | LPisGood 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | A signature for the purpose of displaying a signature or for parody/as part of the art is different from the purpose of a signature for attribution. | |
| ▲ | useruser125524 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Weird irrelevant hypothetical | | |
| ▲ | miltonlost 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | gruez frequently has the worst posts. oh how i wish there were a block button... | |
| ▲ | gruez 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That's the whole point of hypotheticals? If we're just discussing the common case, the conclusion is so obvious that no serious analysis happens and everything becomes vibes based. "Is torrenting fine?" would have been met with something along the lines of "yes, copyright is just an artificial monopoly created by the government and harms innovation", "information should be free", etc. Now people have done a 180 because it's evil corporations doing it so the vibes have totally reversed. They may have a point about the vibes of evil corporations training AI models then selling back the models for $$$, but vibes is no way to run a legal system. | | |
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| ▲ | kyleee 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That sounds like satire, as you suggested. Are you really unsure? | | |
| ▲ | gruez 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | No, see: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49973037 There's nothing illegal unless someone seriously thinks Obama signed it. The easiest example would be his signature on his wikipedia page. Clearly he didn't sign that page, nor (probably) did he authorize it. | | |
| ▲ | jkubicek 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | I don't understand your argument. Wikipedia and a satirical cartoon are both things clearly not made by Obama, nobody in their right mind would be "fooled" by the presence of his signature. These cartoons are intentionally drawn in the style of a cartoonist and feature their signature. The goal is forgery. The whole point of these AI-generated images is to look like the real thing. | | |
| ▲ | gruez 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | >These cartoons are intentionally drawn in the style of a cartoonist and feature their signature. The goal is forgery. The whole point of these AI-generated images is to look like the real thing. You can't seriously claim that the very person who prompted the AI image generator thinks the image it spit out was created by Brendan Loper? |
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| ▲ | zarmin 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | wow. what an incredible way to miss the point. bravo. |
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