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▲ Joel_Mckay 8 hours ago

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▲joegibbs 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why would they kill him for this? Everyone already knew they were doing it, where else would the data be coming from?

▲someonebaggy2 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

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▲Joel_Mckay 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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▲cindyllm 5 hours ago | parent [-]

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▲bigyabai 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

From that page:

> The New York Times article cites Stanford University law professor Mark Lemley, who disagreed that generative AI services violate copyright law, and intellectual property attorney Bradley Hulbert, who said a new law might be necessary to settle the question of legality.

> Months after Balaji's death, which attracted significant public attention, Hulbert told Fortune magazine that Balaji's essay "[reads like] the argument of a really smart non-lawyer who read up on the subject but does not have a thorough understanding".

If there's some kind of industrial-scale intimidation campaign that's stopping IP lawyers from litigating the case of their lifetime, that's an even bigger story than OpenAI taking out a hit on somebody. It seems like they're agreeing that the copyright abuse was never hidden, and it's sufficiently transformative enough that nobody could argue it's illegal.

▲Joel_Mckay 7 hours ago | parent [-]

>campaign that's stopping IP lawyers from litigating the case

Many already settled out of court with Disney due to trademark violations, then killed a popular project mostly used for Star-wars satire at the time.

Best of luck =3

▲bigyabai 7 hours ago | parent [-]

That seems to suggest that Disney's lawyers agree. You can use AI to violate copyright laws no different from a text editor or Bittorrent, but training it on copyright material isn't inherently illegal.

▲Joel_Mckay 7 hours ago | parent [-]

> training it on copyright material isn't inherently illegal

Unless folks spider sites that clearly state the terms of use prohibit such actions, violate GPL licenses, and scrape private conversations or markup input.

Also, fair-use loopholes that protect academics don't always apply in a commercial context. The encoding of the data in a proximity vector search space is irrelevant. =3

▲bigyabai 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Fair-use doesn't specifically protect "academics" at all. It does apply consistently in a commercial context, even to the GPL, which is the clear intent of it in-law.

▲Joel_Mckay 6 hours ago | parent [-]

In general, commercial entities have to be more cautious what they "think" international copyright and trademark laws cover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhgYMH6n004

I would also recommend this book if people tire of the marketing hype. =3

"Gilded Rage" (Jacob Silverman, 2025)

https://www.amazon.com/Gilded-Rage-Radicalization-Silicon-Va...

▲bigyabai 6 hours ago | parent [-]

That's why companies hire lawyers. The lawyers seemingly agree on the legality in American law, which is why we aren't seeing any vindication of Suchir's protest.

▲Joel_Mckay 4 hours ago | parent [-]

>which is why we aren't seeing any vindication

Could also be regulatory capture, and Sealioning. =3

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

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