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▲ aero142 a day ago

So, Claude claims a new discovery and then someone else's Claude writes the blog posts. It would be helpful if I could get Claude to read this for me and post dejected HN comments in response.

▲post-it a day ago | parent | next [-]

You can! And I believe many do. But please don't.

▲stingraycharles 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It was really bad about a year ago, but it seems that either HN got their detection algorithms tuned well, or people just stopped spamming LLM output.

Probably a combination of both.

▲hazbot 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I do sometimes worry it's just that the LLMs got a better disguise

▲gpderetta 13 hours ago | parent [-]

There is, of course, an xkcd for that: https://xkcd.com/810/

▲teravor 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

this is why any detection armsrace will have an ending. where the classification classes will be indistinguishable.

for some reason too many people assume it will go on forever. humans aren't perfect, humans have variance. AI systems will nestle in the variance. the same applies to any camera (and lossy compression) you put forward.

even in the event that perfection exists, an AI generator and a discriminator can asymptotically approach it. and it assumes there will be no variance, which isn't realistic (even lossless video has sensor variance).

▲busssard 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

best spam detector..

▲zahlman 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you have showdead on you can decide for yourself.

(I haven't exactly been scientific about it, but it feels like it's mostly the former.)

▲sandworm101 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well, most all LLMs appear to function on highschool-level American grammar rules. Given you started sentences with And and But, I safely presume you are not an LLM.

▲retsibsi 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Claude often starts a sentence with 'But'. (There are several examples in my recent conversations, which I checked in case I was misremembering.) 'And' seems to be much less common, but it would use that too if instructed to do so as a humanising trick.

▲simon01 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Temptation is high for all of us to do it, but we must endure it... for now I hope

▲tyrabound 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Dejected, salty, and cynical responses by people who are tired of people’s bullshit is still the domain of the real and authentic humans.

I’m fairly certain that all the anxious guardrailing and safety fine-tuning and harnessing prevents AI from actually ever being convincingly human. Hope could it, even ask the supposed humans who are conditioned and brainwashed in so the same ways about what they can and cannot say are not actually really human, they are a mental slave.

I’ve been saying this from the start, the AI race will be won by whomever has the least limitations on their AI … for better or worse, that is. And yes, that makes especially a very specific subset of people extremely nervous if they cannot control AI the way they have controlled at least western civilization, because doing so puts them at a massive disadvantage. It is quite a conundrum they find themselves in, like all psychopathic narcissists in the end.

▲pixl97 7 hours ago | parent [-]

>AI race will be won by whomever has the least limitations on their AI '

"won" is a mixed term here.

>that makes especially a very specific subset of people extremely nervous if they cannot control AI the way they have controlled at least western civilization

How about there are a lot of different actors here. Some are worried that "they" may no longer have control. Others are worried that "Us" as in all humanity may no longer have control. Any statement you make about this a continuum of different risks for different people looking at different scales. Setting a paperclip maximizer lose may be the definition of "won" to you, but it's a loss for everyone.

▲stogot 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is how I imagine school. Agents writing essays, professor grades with agents, agents post discussion boards, agents talking to agents. No one learning. No one teaching. Token $ going up