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▲ atleastoptimal an hour ago

>Finally, the next few years will be extremely interesting. We are at a new frontier, where our communal norms, values, and expectations are beginning to break down, and it’s up to all of us to figure out what should replace them

I'm tired of this cautious optimist talk. It is inevitable that without regulation, AI will eclipse humans in every possible domain, leaving everyone without direct control over the most powerful models completely powerless, economically redundant, and at the mercy of the new AI hegemony. Anything which doesn't confront this possibility honestly is just lying to people.

▲greyw 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

That will also happen with regulation. It's just gonna be slightly slower process

▲zamadatix an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A lot of people are tired of a lot of talk. It's not going to get anywhere if they all just consider the other views as only possibly held by liars instead of something to discuss and reason about.

▲conartist6 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes people have broken down the norms, but AI isn't eclipsing anything. AI itself is a human achievement. By my count AI contributions to society are still 0.00000001% of human contributions to society, and it's not catching up since once of its main effects on humans is to make them antisocial. The reason I'm not freaking out is that it's the AI users who are destroying themselves. The more you buy into the lie of an AI future, the more it is you being sucked dry. I just don't have the energy to save people that don't want to saved, and LLM users and gambling addicts fall in this category for exactly the same reasons

▲georgemcbay an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I generally agree with what you're saying, but...

> at the mercy of the new AI hegemony

Unless their robot army is fully armed and ready when things get bad enough they'll find out we aren't at their mercy, they are at ours.

England 1381. France 1789. Haiti 1791. Russia 1917. China 1949. World 203X...?

Would be preferable to avoid letting things get to that point by having those in power be smart enough to release the pressure valves as was done in the US around the time of the New Deal, but if they fumble this we shouldn't view being at the mercy of the elites as a foregone conclusion.

Once the average person's base level comfort is gone and they aren't sure where their next 3 meals are coming from anything can happen.