| ▲ | soerxpso an hour ago | |
For the record, under current US law, it is not illegal to have a sentence in your locally-stored notes on your phone outlining a plan to commit a crime. There has to be an overt act. The police in that instance could inform the intended victim, surveil you, etc, but they would not be able to successfully charge you with attempted murder. It's not illegal to be considering committing a crime, even if you have a tendency to write down your thoughts. The law in this particular case, which seems to be intended for threats that you actually send to someone, is being interpreted broadly to apply to any "threat" that you transmit to a server. So in your hypothetical, the legality would depend on whether your notes are backed up to icloud or not. | ||
| ▲ | wolfy1993 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | |
>the legality would depend on whether your notes are backed up to icloud or not I agree, and it's nuts. This feels like less of an issue with anthropic per say as it is a broad reading/misuse of the law's original intent. | ||
| ▲ | openasocket 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
This is true for the general criminal conspiracy law, but be aware that an “overt act” doesn’t have to be an illegal act, just some action in furtherance of that crime. That can be purchasing a weapon, or scouting out a location. There may also be other laws in play depending on the specifics | ||
| ▲ | akoboldfrying an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | |
You're absolutely right, at least according to my own quick check on Gemini. I find this state of affairs amazing. In my country, no "overt act" is required, but both here and in the US a "conspiracy to commit" charge requires an agreement with a second party. This is indeed consistent with a very broad interpretation of "no thought crimes". | ||