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▲ toomuchtodo 2 hours ago

Industry can electrify or sunset. “Work is hard.” The energy potential is well above the demand curve, just have to build the orchestration infrastructure (low carbon generation, batteries, transmission, district heating, flexible load demand response, etc). Enough sunlight falls on the Earth in thirty minutes to power humanity for a year, the inability to harness this potential energy is the problem being solved for. It's easy to go faster: simply direct fossil fuel capital and subsidies to the technologies I enumerate above. To not go faster is a choice. We could make different choices.

https://cleantechnica.com/2026/08/30/poland-coal-capacity-tr...

https://ember-energy.org/countries-and-regions/poland/

https://pyrtkoanalytics.com/poland-in-the-energy-transition-...

https://www.pv-magazine.com/2025/12/29/poland-projected-to-r...

https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/PL/fifteen_minutes

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/installed-solar-pv-capaci... (already out of date due to solar PV deployment velocity, >3TW of solar PV has been installed globally as of this year)

The World Crossed a Major Solar Milestone [3TW] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49151977 - August 2026

(Poland is expected to add 3-4GW of solar per year, and has hundreds of GWs of combined wind [onshore and offshore] and solar PV potential)

▲usrnm an hour ago | parent [-]

> Industry can electrify or sunset

The much more realistic third option is just moving somewhere else

▲toomuchtodo an hour ago | parent [-]

Tariffs to equalize if needed until electrification is complete. China is electrifying the fastest with low carbon generation. Other countries should try to keep up. Renewables and batteries are the cheapest form of firm generation in 90%+ of the world. That’s a competitive advantage. Why would you move industry to where power was not low carbon and therefore more expensive?

https://tradingeconomics.com/poland/exports-by-country (most Polish exports go to other EU countries or the US)

https://tradingeconomics.com/poland/imports-by-country

https://ember-energy.org/latest-updates/batteries-now-cheap-...

https://ember-energy.org/latest-insights/how-cheap-is-batter...

▲varispeed an hour ago | parent [-]

> Tariffs to equalize if needed until electrification is complete.

Brain dead. Corporations will simply drop the market or consumers will pay higher prices.

▲toomuchtodo an hour ago | parent [-]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ economics speak for themselves. Quote the subthread in five years when most of Poland’s coal and gas generation has been phased out.

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/w/d...

https://ember-energy.org/latest-insights/eu-national-targets...

https://www.euronews.com/2026/08/07/how-europes-drought-expo...

▲varispeed 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

Explain what it speaks?

Clearly you have no real knowledge how economy works.

How the tariffs will make ordinary business build a steel plant that closed because it was not viable?