That is not an argument though. He gave a specific example.

You brought up only AfD, without giving any counter-example or refuting his arguments. That's now how a discussion should work.

See it from the other side: the argument IS ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT with regards to AfD or any other party. So, an argument should be made from this point of view as well.

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kuerbel 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They haven't brought up any argument at all, they simply said that "millions imported into the system do not contribute", which is not an argument or a fact. Just a statement. What is there to discuss? Why are you holding my comment to a different standard, because you don't agree or what?

But just for you I have looked up the facts: 1.1 million Ukrainian refugees, and half of them are employed by now. 1.1 million including children, elderly, and so on, people who aren't able to work. A) its not "millions" B) german overall employment rate is about 45.5 million employed people out of 83.5 million residents. So they are totally in line with the average population.

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bijowo1676 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

noone was complaining about Ukrainian refugees, you missed the other area where refugees come but never contribute back to society except crime

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KellyCriterion 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> or a fact. <

Obviously, you are not a local! Statistics all around, from Gov to private orgs, tell quite the opposite.

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		Then go ahead and present those. That's what we're all here on HN for unless I've a gross misunderstanding. Otherwise your comment is no better than partisan noise.

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Forgeties79 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You can’t remove party politics from a discussion of national healthcare. It is absolutely relevant.