The sole fact that products from Apple and many other proprietary manufacturers receive so much attention on the discussion board called "Hacker News" is utterly ridiculous. A good example is the thread named "Turn off Apple Intelligence on macOS 27 and get its disk space back" with 600+ points and 400+ comments on the main page today.

What's worse is that a big part of the discussion here is just worshipping closed-source from a merely consumer perspective ('...wow! what a cool shiny UI feature to manage SSH keys for only 0.99$'), as if we were on the Tom's Guide forums. And some active members here even purchase browsers and seem to be very proud about it...

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Klonoar 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I will never understand comments like this.

You are on the wrong site if you think that HN was ever a bastion of the hyper OSS mindset.

This is a site powered by and run by one of the arms of a startup incubator/investor. It has always been clear on that.

Just because it has “hacker” in the name doesn’t mean what you think it means.

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Citizen_Lame 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Exactly. The audience used to be tinkerers, people who liked getting their hands dirty. Now it's mostly bros of one stripe or another (AI bros, finance bros, and so on).

	▲	shagie 7 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The link 'past' in the top bar allows you to see the front page in the past. From 2010 ... https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2010-10-04 that still looks similar (though I find it amusing that Ask HN: So what's new in the world of A.I.? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1754134 is on the front page "... My prediction (heh pun intended) is that you see enormous changes in the field when processing by GPU's becomes much more available. There are some algorithms that are simply difficult to research because labs don't have access to fast enough machines. ...") There's certainly been some broification and the various reddit exoduses have been shifting the average user a bit. I do believe you've got your top color set to ff007f rather than ff6600 if you're forgetting what the site looked like then.
	▲	user43928 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Isn't the AI stuff tinkering? I've certainly thrown together more software and automations over the last year than I have in the other ~15 years since I started programming. It's never been so fun.

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ravenstine 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm not sure where you're getting the "worshiping" part from. Though I respect your overall opinion while still disagreeing from it, it's been a very long time since HN came anywhere near worshiping Apple or even most big tech companies. Most of us simply live in the real world where using big tech wares is a soft-requirement. Using an Apple device or having interest in them makes one no more or less a "hacker", which is already a pretty subjective and contextual term to begin with.

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AJRF 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you are interested in tech outside of consumer electronics lobsters is a good alternative to here.