And private individuals as well, as you can see what your colleagues earn without having to ask anyone, and can even see what your boss earns, or what the competitor to your current workplace earns! I have to say salary negotiations are a lot more straightforward (and fun) in Sweden as an employee than other places I've worked.

Overall the benefits for employees seems way broader than the benefits for the companies.

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jandrewrogers 6 hours ago | parent [-]

FWIW, wage transparency has been studied quite a bit in economics literature. The short version is that while it does reduce wage variance i.e. wide differences in pay for the same job, it also consistently reduces average wages.

On a purely economic basis, wage transparency primarily benefits employers because it reduces how much they need to pay based on actual performance in practice.

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embedding-shape 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> On a purely economic basis, wage transparency primarily benefits employers because it reduces how much they need to pay based on actual performance in practice.

Why would transparency reduce how much employers have to pay? Usually capitalists would make the opposite claim, by keeping salaries opaque, it's much easier for employers to underpay people, but you seemingly are making the opposite claim.

If I can see how much my employer pay others, doesn't that help me ensure I too get fairly compensated from the employer? How could the employer leverage this situation to pay me less than I already know I'm worth?

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jandrewrogers 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It follows from the wages being allocated from a relatively fixed pool of available money. What people think they are worth can be significantly different than what they are empirically worth, both high and low. There is some price discovery that needs to happen at the individual level.

When wages are opaque, an employee only needs to justify their worth to the employer. Employers pay for value net of wages, so they are often happy to pay someone much more if the individual value generated justifies it. When wages are transparent, an employee needs to justify their worth to everyone else because a higher wage is tacitly reducing their wage. This creates social pressure separate from the economic argument.

Other employees are incentivized to maximize their own wages regardless if it maximizes value for the employer. And there are many more average employees than high performers. Employers can leverage this social pressure to cram down the wages of anyone who wants to be paid above average because they no longer have to defend a lower wage on a purely economic basis. Empirically, this is what happens.

Anecdotally, I've seen this play out countless times at companies.

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MentalM 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> If I can see how much my employer pay others

Then your salary will be decided by lowest common denominator. Employer does not leverage this situation, employer reacts to the incentives this situation creating.

	▲	embedding-shape 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Then your salary will be decided by lowest common denominator. Why would it? That's not what happens in practice, and you have raw data to point at, with things like "Person A is half a fast as me, and earns X, that's why I deserve X+N", not sure why you think there would be another outcome here, and it's clear you've never experienced this sort of environment yourself.