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▲ Show HN: AstroHelm – Use your phone camera to aim a telescope or telephoto lens(astrohelm.app)
42 points by HeavenFox 3 days ago | 13 comments

Hello HN!

As an amateur astronomer living in New York City, finding objects in the night sky has always been a huge challenge. I thought about using the smartphone's gyroscope and magnetometer, but the accuracy left a lot to be desired.

Then I learned about plate solving: given a picture of the sky, we can determine exactly where in the sky the camera was pointing by identifying the star pattern. This was a much better fit - as long as the phone and the optics are rigidly connected, we can repeatedly photograph the sky and determine the pointing direction with very high accuracy.

A lot of work was done to design an algorithm that works reliably with smartphone cameras, which have limited light sensitivity and wider field of view which includes buildings and trees. I experimented a lot with machine learning, and to my surprise, traditional CV methods actually performed better at extracting stars from the image.

The result is AstroHelm, an iOS and Android app that helps figure out where your telescope or camera is pointing, and guides you to the object of your choice. Just follow an arrow on screen, and the object will land right in your eyepiece or viewfinder. Everything happens on device, and no internet connection is required.

AstroHelm is free to use and comes with beginner-friendly objects selected for each night. Optional one time purchases unlock more objects and advanced features, such as interoperability with other astronomy software. I am also proud to partner with astronomy clubs and organizations to offer free licenses for outreach.

I hope AstroHelm can make it a little easier to discover the wonders of the night sky, and I look forward to your feedback!

▲chantepierre 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Hey, I'd actually use that. I build telescopes (see personal site in profile) and only do visual astronomy. I voluntarily prefer to use old-ish phones, i.e. currently I am using an iPhone SE 2022. Do you think the weak signal under the night sky would work with your plate solving ?

▲skypanther 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This looks like a nice alternative to PiFinder. No extra hardware required. https://www.pifinder.io/

▲soltanov 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Good call ditching ML. Traditional CV still wins on power, latency, and determinism for star centroiding.

▲danbruc 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

- Accurate up to within 10 arcseconds (1/360 of a degree)

- Computes coordinates in less than a second

For comparison, the sky moves 15 arcseconds per second. So without a motorized mount to keep the telescope on target, the accuracy will be short-lived.

▲solarist an hour ago | parent [-]

OP mixed up accuracy and resolution.

▲fanatic2pope 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This looks great, but why is there no "plus" version for Android?

▲preisschild an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I often use Stardroid/SkyMap for this, which is free (open source) software

https://github.com/sky-map-team/stardroid

▲peter_d_sherman an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>"Works Offline

The best dark-sky sites don't have Internet access. AstroHelm’s plate solving engine runs entirely on device. No internet connection required, and your camera images stay on your phone."

This looks like a great tool for the following application:

o Off-grid, deep wilderness, high mountain, broad desert or ocean navigation (like the way ancient seafarers would navigate via the position of the stars in the nighttime sky, relative to them)

(Also, if you're a Star Trek fan and/or futurist, you'd expect that computers on future spacecraft would or could run some version of this software, or at least some form of Plate Solving / Astrometric Solving algorithm...)

Anyway, the app looks great!

Related:

General wikipedia information page about Astrometric Solving (does not include algorithms!):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrometric_solving

Paper: New Algorithms for Automated Astrometry, by Chris Harvey (2004) (An excellent paper about all that is necessary for such an algorithm!):

https://cs.nyu.edu/home/people/in_memoriam/roweis/papers/Har...

▲dylan604 a minute ago | parent [-]

> The best dark-sky sites don't have Internet access.

I'm spoiled. The best dark-sky site near me, a meager 4 hour drive, is an astronomy campus with fiber internet providing wifi. Intentionally, it's not a lot of bandwidth to do streaming while you're bored, but enough to run apps like this. They also have a what they named the StarField which is an open field where there is a grid where every 10' or so has an electrical outlet popping up from the ground to power your gear. It's the darkest skies in my state that is not federal land.

▲rrr_oh_man 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Cool project!

Pls fix (AI slop?):

  Unsupported: Smartphone Eyepiece Adapter
  Eyepiece adapters hold the phone’s camera over the eyepiece so you can photograph through the telescope. AstroHelm does not support this configuration. The field of view is typically too small for plate solving to work
But:

“After that, whatever I called for was in the field of view, even when I was using a 5mm eyepiece.”

▲chantepierre 2 hours ago | parent [-]

They mean that the FOV seen by the phone through an eyepiece is too small to run a successful plate solve.

The comment of the user says "the plate solve was precise enough that the object I wanted was centered (for the observer, not for the phone) when I used a 5mm eyepiece" (which is usually an high-power, meaning tiny-FOV eyepiece)

Most pointing methods aren't accurate enough to correctly center an object at high power and require you to use a lower power eyepiece, nudge the object a bit, then switch to high power. I understand how you read it as slop but the two sentences aren't contradictory, and the user comment hints to an useful pointing tool :)

Edit : bad tenses and grammar fixes

▲rrr_oh_man 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Thank you for the explanation!

▲chantepierre 2 hours ago | parent [-]

For more context, the other comment saying "I’m really impressed… guided me almost dead on to the double cluster when asked." is a bit funny, because the double cluster is easily seen naked-eye in suburban sky, which is as easy as it gets for deep sky objects. But the comment you quoted makes the app look good and I'm going to try it if the fall cloud cover ever goes away.