I can't speak for everyone, but I've lived in countries where there are cameras everywhere, e.g. Singapore, China, where crime is almost zero compared to the US, and it is incredibly safe to be anywhere at almost any hour. Actual criminals are usually caught and apprehended very quickly. That part feels nice, that it is vanishingly unlikely to get mugged just for going out to get food at 2am.

What can make them suck is authorities abusing them to do enforce arbitrary, unpredictable ideals that are not part of the law, incompetent authorities targeting non-criminals and peaceful protesters, or traumatizing the wrong person because of an incorrect AI face match.

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kennywinker an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> What can make them suck is authorities abusing them to do enforce arbitrary, unpredictable ideals that are not part of the law,

That’s crime. Doesn’t make it into the stats tho

	▲	cucumber3732842 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		No, it's not a crime. In the US civil/administrative enforcement authorities are given insane authority under the law and "haha, spend $10k on lawyering to exhaust our kangaroo court and then spend another 20 to sue us in big boy court" is your recourse. Your 4th through 8th amendment rights basically don't exist if the subject is one of fines and fees and bureaucrats and not one of gun toting, door kicking cops trying to put you in a cage. And this is the US. I can only imagine what it's like in China. Read your municipal code (they're fairly homogenous these days because of the feds and their stupid grants) if you don't believe me.

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hnburnsy an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Is that because of the cameras or the punitive penalties or maybe both?