| ▲ | slowin 3 hours ago |
| > It is a search of law enforcements own property. The roads are not law enforcement's property and my private car on a public road is private property that requires a warrant to search. These things should be totally banned, but even your argument is wrong since Flocks don't mask just the road, they record everything in their field of view. |
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| ▲ | sippingabonedry 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > they record everything in their field of view Like all the millions of traffic cameras, dashcams, smartphones, and everyone's eyeballs? |
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| ▲ | slowin 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Traffic cameras certainly have the same issues, but the others aren't aggregated and searchable by the police, they're for personal use. |
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| ▲ | charcircuit 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| >The roads are not law enforcement's property I was referring data as the property. Accessing a public fact of your car is not the same as actually searching through a car. >they record everything in their field of view. And those areas are still part of the public. |
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| ▲ | slowin 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Given that the roads are not law enforcement's property, and in fact public property, they would require public approval and voted on legislation for the police to install cameras on them. > And those areas are still part of the public. No, it's almost exclusively private land. | | |
| ▲ | charcircuit 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Basically, anyone is allowed to record what is in public view without getting any kind of permission ahead of time. | | |
| ▲ | iamnothere an hour ago | parent [-] | | Courts and the law have disagreed with this in the past, see for instance stalking laws. If it’s possible to criminalize individual stalking, it’s possible to criminalize mass stalking. |
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| ▲ | 0xbadcafebee 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The point of these lawsuits is that they don't have the right to search the data they have now, and possibly don't even have a right to have that data. The law says they need a good reason to search not just your property, but for information about you that isn't necessarily your property. Searching where you go 24/7 is a search, just like searching the phone company for what phone numbers you call is a search. In each case they are looking for information about you that they don't have a right to have without a very good reason. |
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