| ▲ | INTPenis 4 hours ago |
| The whole ADHD and trauma link is very interesting. I'm not a scientist, but from personal experience every single person I've met with ADHD has had severe childhood trauma. So it really makes you wonder if that old theory is right about childhood trauma triggering an overload to a child's flight or fight response, which leads to ADHD. Especially when the trauma involes a caretaker. Parents are like a child's image of god, and for one to turn against the child is devastating. |
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| ▲ | sourthyme 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I have some friends that had hard experiences growing up from their parents because of their ADHD. ADHD effects kids earlier in development and requires some extra attention from parents (who also may have ADHD). It might be more likely that kids with ADHD have trauma because of their parents reaction to it. |
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| ▲ | rwyinuse 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I know plenty of people with ADHD diagnosis and normal childhoods without any unusual trauma. Most of them also have comorbidities (stuff typical to autism spectrum, learning or motor function difficulties). I think ADHD is something you are born with, but there are many other things that can cause similar difficulties, including trauma. And as the linked article mentions, neurodivergent children are more likely to have parents who suffer from similar difficulties, which may increase their chance of suffering some sort of childhood trauma. |
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| ▲ | cs02rm0 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Likewise, but also I've got boy-girl twins. They're 9 now, but we're pretty sure we could tell he had ADHD at six months old (on a waiting list to see if he's autistic too). She's never shown any sign of either. As twins, they've been raised together, I can't think that he suffered any more trauma than she did. | | |
| ▲ | pfannkuchen an hour ago | parent [-] | | I dunno isn’t sex a huge confounder? The instinctive behavior (on average) of girls seems to be more compatible with living in boxes and following ostensibly (from the child’s perspective) arbitrary rules. The boy could have a very different experience from the girl by running into disproportionately more <behavioral correction>, and however healthy <behavioral correction> is in the family system (and wherever else they are exposed to) could determine whether the child more exposed to it has issues while the child less exposed to it wouldn’t, despite living in the same environment and being treated the same relative to their actual behaviors. I’m not asserting that this has happened in your case, by the way, your account of the situation just doesn’t rule it out. I wonder if you’ve considered this? |
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| ▲ | Kirth 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I also thought I had a relatively normal childhood but it turns out those long episodes of terror and anxiety at home and school, later repressed through a slew of coping mechanisms, were -if perhaps "normal" enough- definitely not healthy :) |
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| ▲ | dguest 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| For what it's worth I know people with ADHD who have no evidence of childhood trauma. I'm saying this to offer an honest counterpoint to your anecdote. I don't think you meant to imply that ADHD is entirely due to trauma, but in fairness to parents it's probably worth entertaining the idea that some kids are just born that way. |
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| ▲ | plufz 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I believe current research results indicate about 75-80% of ADHD can be attributed to genetics. In other words there are room for other factors but genetics clearly dominante in our current understanding of ADHD. |
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| ▲ | skissane 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > I'm not a scientist, but from personal experience every single person I've met with ADHD has had severe childhood trauma I have an ADHD diagnosis. The only particularly traumatic thing in my childhood was my parents getting divorced when I was a teenager because my mother had an affair. I already had some symptoms of it before that happened. Prior to that, my parents might not have been the best parents you could possibly have, but they didn’t do anything that would merit the label “severe childhood trauma” |
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| ▲ | rand_r 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | "Trauma" is a very bad name because it sounds violent and extreme, so you can easily think it doesn't apply to you. In actual fact, it can be caused by something as routine as "sleep training" where infants are left to cry themselves to sleep, or being snapped at for expressing emotion, all before the age of 5. The years before 5 are foundational, but you usually no not have memories earlier than 5 so it's very hard to say definitely what happened especially when causes for trauma are relatively routine. You need a trusted therapist to guide you into exposing what the subconscious mind is holding onto from infancy. It is subtle, deep, difficult, rewarding work. But I do think people discount trauma because it sounds scarier than "someone snapped at me in frustration as an infant for expressing some emotion and I learned to disconnect from myself." | | |
| ▲ | skissane an hour ago | parent [-] | | > You need a trusted therapist to guide you into exposing what the subconscious mind is holding onto from infancy. This sounds like a great way to implant false memories | | |
| ▲ | rand_r 31 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The honest way to handle this, which hopefully your therapist does, is not to claim that you can magically retrieve perfect memories from before 5 because you thought about it hard. What matters is what your impression is of what happened and what messages your subconscious is sending you. Whether or not it literally happened isn't that important and it's impossible to know. The therapeutic relief comes simply from listening to your gut/subconscious and feeling the emotions that that brings up. Being a loving friend and parent to that part of yourself. You can do that effectively without pretending that you can know if the impressions are literally true or if that message your getting is simply the best way for it to express the emotions it's holding onto. Again, you can maintain your integrity while being empathic and loving and listening to the message. |
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| ▲ | doright an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Almost no parent is ever going to admit their own behavior triggered their child's ADHD or depression. But if they did, then they did. It can still happen. |
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| ▲ | nick125 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There have also been studies showing that ADHD and autistic individuals are more likely to develop PTSD from traumatic experiences than others. Not to mention the rate of comorbidity can be fairly high, hypothesized for a variety of reasons. |
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| ▲ | jaggederest 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Too much heritability for trauma alone to be the whole story. It's likely genetics produce latency and environment triggers, if trauma is indeed a big part of the picture. |
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| ▲ | luckydata 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| this is simply not true, and there's tons of scientific evidence of the contrary. ADHD makes you vulnerable to abuse because generally speaking people have a hard time dealing with the foibles of ADHD people. That makes you a target. We know that from science, there's no point in theorizing. ADHD is mostly genetic, highly hereditary and both under diagnosed and under treated. That's all there is to it. |
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| ▲ | anonthrownaway 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | You are arguing that childhood trauma doesn't have a causal relationship to ADHD? | | |
| ▲ | Clent 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I would argue the relationship is in the other direction. People with ADHD often have childhood trauma caused by the way others treated their ADHD symptoms in childhood. | | | |
| ▲ | luckydata 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | 100%. it's genetic, what's unclear about that? https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8328933/ | | |
| ▲ | gsnedders 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | From that meta article: > For most people with ADHD, many genetic and environmental risk factors accumulate to cause the disorder. i.e., for most people, there is no singular cause. | |
| ▲ | unyttigfjelltol 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | An experience that produces grit and resilience in one person, in another produces visits to a mental health practitioner 20 years later. The practitioner is confused and writes an article: did the event produce the long-delayed visit, or the person’s inherent way of interacting with the world? To state the question correctly, is to imply the answer. Declaring all events that subjectively motivate a mental health visit as “trauma” is to allow private realities and have the patient determine the standard of care. Factually, we all know that if someone insists on holding onto a minor slight for an extended time, this is rarely about the event itself. The mental health community got waaaayyyy off track with this radical expansion of the concept of trauma. |
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| ▲ | varispeed 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > every single person I've met with ADHD has had severe childhood trauma. Every person with headache I met had painkillers. Therefore their pain is caused by painkillers. Daft. |