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▲ sajithdilshan 7 hours ago

> It knows less from memory, Multi-turn tool calling is weaker, It’s not the best coding agent

Then what does it good at? Sending faxes?

▲mhitza 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't have the hardware to test this, but being trained to say "I don't know" instead of misleadingly talking confidently about what it does not know is interesting in itself.

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▲hasley 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I suspect there are a lot of German companies that have thousands of documents that describe their software/product. Adding or changing a feature means you have to ask 20 people whether there might something that can break some edge case behavior for which no (automatic) test exists. In this case, it would be nice to have a virtual employee who knows the content of all documents.

I even experienced the opposite case: Some feature was first rejected since everyone agreed that it would break some behavior. After talking to several people again, I discovered that the use case which required this behavior did not exist anymore and had been officially phased out years before. Maybe, some RAG LLM could have told me, based on company documents, that there is some edge case that can be removed making the way free for the new feature.

▲pettijohn 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Seems like it's good at reading German documents and reasoning over them. Custom German-language tokenizer, and one of the least hallucinating models.

▲skrebbel 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well that’s a pretty important skill for German users!

▲sajithdilshan 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Unfortunately yes.

▲moooo99 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I know this is a long standing joke, but I am 27 now, born and raised in Germany, and genuinely never had the opportunity to use a Fax machine. It honestly kind of bums me out because there is something that seems cool about Fax (being fully aware that it should be fully obsolete by now)

▲jfengel 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Fax was always awkward and weird. Resolution sucked and the paper handling was unreliable.

They were never common. They were mostly business tools, and consumers never wanted them. Sometimes you'd be required to send someone a fax, and you'd have to go to an office store. (And pay rather a lot; dollars per page.)

I hope you get to give one a try some day, for kicks, but the thrill will wear off fast.

▲ketzu 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> They were never common.

Are you sure about that? I remember we had one at home when I grew up, so I assumed they were very common at the time. (And it's not like we had this crazy business driven family use of it.)

▲tchalla 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You have plenty of opportunities you’ve just not been forced to use them. Look into your contracts right now, I bet rhrrr are opportunities

▲IshKebab 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Fax was never cool.

▲hobo123 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

As a kid I interned at a bookstore, and before closing we'd write the book orders on a sheet of paper, slide it into the Fax machine to send to the book wholesale. I think the Fax printed out some kind of response a minute later.

Next day, the books would arrive. This was maybe 1996, but I thought it was pretty cool.

▲literalAardvark 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Fax was mind blowingly cool.

Maybe you can relate to seeing webcams or Facetime when it came out or something.

Being able to see a signed document or a picture someone took 5000km away quickly was mind boggling in its age.

▲stogot 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

GPT was better at chat and rag before coding

▲m00dy 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I was thinking about the use cases for Germany residents actually, but yes, you're right. A German AI model needs to be able to handle fax machines (there's a bit variety of them) and also needs to handle letters coming home. german image-to-text.

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▲gunthercuckolso 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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