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▲ avaer 2 hours ago

Gambling aside, the median quality of a modern mobile game is worse than what we had on newgrounds.

NG didn't have multiple 500MB downloads, buttons in the wrong place, pointless currencies. More importantly NG artists actually cared. I understand why Apple killed Flash, but what we got in its place is not better.

▲cisc 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> I understand why Apple killed Flash, but what we got in its place is not better.

WebAssembly is better compilation target and runtime than Flash ever was. Many languages can compile to WebAssembly.

I think what you want is an authoring tool like Flash. Why not make that tool? Or if you don't want to make it, Rive's a pretty good animation engine. You can make games with it:

https://rive.app/

https://rive.app/docs/scripting/demos

▲Dwedit 4 minutes ago | parent [-]

Assuming you're not looking at the file sizes involved...

SWF is extremely compact, since it was intended to be used over a dialup connection. Flash worked because the player was preinstalled on the computer.

The newer Ruffle player is a 10MB download in addition to the actual flash file. You get a new freshly downloaded copy of Ruffle from every site that's hosting Flash content.

▲Xirdus an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> I understand why Apple killed Flash

In retrospect, it turns out the reasons were a load of bollocks. Modern web is 10 times more bloated than Flash ever was, and nobody cares.