recently we got Starcraft 1 RL bot and Advance Wars bot, both on upper human level

root_axis 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The frontier is moving, but there's still no human-level starcraft bot that plays entirely through vision, like a human.

IMO it also needs to use a real mouse before I think it's a true comparison, even a casual player would have a massive advantage if they could issue selections and unit commands via query.

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xpct an hour ago | parent [-]

They already cap the actions per second a bot can take, sometimes to very low numbers. I don't remember if it was AlphaStar that limited how often you can move your camera or not, but some work definitely did.

I personally don't see why vision is important, if anything I'd frame vision as useful to humans, rather than being the baseline.

	▲	knollimar 24 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		The capped actions cheat in EPM afaik. It does crazy micro

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gregdeon 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

We got an Advance Wars bot? Say more...