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▲ accountrequired 4 hours ago

The binaries are from china. Your data goes to china. The self-updating plugin system is vulnerable to malicious llm provider. Anyone using this is crazy!

▲Sha1rholder 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's open source. Unlike Claude Code your beloved friend which is closed-source and uses steganography along with an astonishing array of telemetry and fingerprinting techniques to conduct intelligence analysis on its users.

▲yjh0502 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As a non-American, I see handing my data to an American company as potentially just as risky as handing it to a Chinese company.

▲latentsea 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well under the current US administration as non-US citizens we kinda feel this sentiment about the US now fwiw.

▲edelhans 22 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I strongly prefer China having access to my personal data than the US.

▲nextaccountic 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's open source. Unlike Claude Code

▲jluysvi 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ahh! Not China! Real Americans™ let their data go to American™ companies!

▲wg0 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The new danger is US administration and the current fascit regime. China has yet not topple a single government abroad, has not bombed a single country and has not tapped the phones of its allies.

Now don't down vote before understanding the definition of a fasict:

"A fascist is a person who advocates for or adheres to fascism, a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology."

China is none of that.

▲qurren 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Your data goes to china.

What are they going to do? They have no jurisdiction over me.

▲harvey9 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No jurisdiction but their operatives have global reach. For most people the more practical risk for any rented ai is IP theft.

▲wickedsight 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Exactly. Meanwhile, nearly all my personal data is stored on servers owned by US companies. Feels much more risky.

▲sampullman 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What if I use it in an isolated environment and only work on open source code with it?

▲bedane 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

better this than three-letter agencies from some nazi warmongering alternative

▲glenpierce 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is there a safer alternative? It’s not like I can trust OpenAI since they’ve proven that they’ll steal research from mathematicians. X is run by a sociopath. Anthropic is going to IPO so who can say how long they’ll be trustworthy…

▲Good4boothee 26 minutes ago | parent [-]

Both Z.AI and xAI have already proven you can't trust them, like at all. I guess other harnesses are in "I don't trust it, but it is convenient" category.

And Pi is considered the neutral choice: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49926069