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| ▲ | 0c3ca83 an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| It looks like lobbying for increased consumer protection laws. Either you put on a suit and talk to politicians, or you work with and donate to groups that do. |
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| ▲ | asdff 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Look at the options on the table for you: Either do nothing and buy new cars, or buy an older car and maintain it for the rest of your life. There is no option C, as you note. |
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| ▲ | devin an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| For my part, I will not be purchasing a new car until they bring back physical controls and dump the spyware. |
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| ▲ | ad_fontes an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You might want to check out Slate. It's about the closest thing to an open vehicle platform I can imagine. |
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| ▲ | slowin an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Interesting and thank you! Just like I'd like a "dumb" tv that I could just plug a Linux machine running Kodi into, I'd like a car that was 100% free from smart features, yet gave me the hooks to power any of the systems with my own software/hardware. | | |
| ▲ | asdff 31 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The closest thing is just any old basic obdii and that's it ICE car, where you rip out the oem radio and now have your power taps to do all sorts of fun hacker projects within that new found standard sized void in the dash. |
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| ▲ | wiml an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Does Slate actually make any statements about the level of telematics/surveillance in their vehicles? | | |
| ▲ | goda90 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | They say their vehicles have no modem by default, only leaving it as an option for fleet users. They also have no infotainment system to contain any sort of camera or microphone. | | | |
| ▲ | ad_fontes an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | IIRC, they don't have a cellular radio in the vehicle (or even a FM radio). All the connectivity is done via Bluetooth with a mobile app. It's been a while since I read up on them and things might have changed, but I have a lot respect for what they're doing. Full embracing right to repair and customer privacy when the entire industry is moving at lightning speed in the opposite direction. | | |
| ▲ | goodmythical an hour ago | parent [-] | | Aren't their companies that are doing their telemetry over bluetooth bridge to phone' internet? Not saying slate necessarily does, but it's certainly an available exfil surface, especially if there's a 'manage your slate vehicle' app. |
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| ▲ | AlexandrB an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| DMCA needs to be repealed or at least radically changed. Currently it's used as a cudgel by manufacturers to prevent customers from modifying the software in the stuff they buy. Legislation that requires vendors to provide documentation and stuff like "right to repair" would also go a long way. |
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| ▲ | gib444 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > I'm not sure what that looks like though Two wheels and some impressive leg muscles ! |
