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▲ someonebaggy an hour ago

In most of Europe, police carry guns. But they are afraid to fire those guns, because there will be a disciplinary process and they are likely to lose their job or go to jail if they can't show there was no other alternative. But if there is a situation where it is necessary to fire the gun, it will be.

▲mc32 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Also in Europe more cops have K-9s and aren’t afraid to sick them on suspects.

▲echelon 42 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

In the US, anyone can own a gun. Police have to perform a different risk calculus than in Europe.

Police officers are 30x more likely to be murdered in the US South than in, say, Germany.

▲catlikesshrimp 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

You just changed 45x to 30x. What is the source?

▲echelon 34 minutes ago | parent [-]

45x included accidents. I'll compile the citations, one moment.

> "From 2014 through 2023, the South region had the most line-of-duty deaths yearly compared to other regions. There was a 38% decrease in line-of-duty deaths in the region in 2023 (20 deaths) compared to 2022 (32 deaths). Last year marked the lowest number of line-of-duty deaths in the South since 2015 (19 deaths)."

https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-officer...

Felonious Deaths vs Accidental Deaths

https://le.fbi.gov/cjis-division/cjis-link/statistics-on-law...

> "A look at police crime statistics shows that fatal attacks on police officers are relatively rare. While violent acts against police officers are increasing overall—last year the statistics recorded 38,960 cases, a rise of 0.8 percent—no more than two police officers have been killed in the line of duty in any year since 2011." (Translated)

https://www.bazonline.ch/die-schiessen-369707652687