| ▲ | Lendal 2 hours ago |
| "It has always been this way, this is normal" is the typical first response to tyranny. It puts you on their side, which is fine if that's where you want to be. Just be aware of it. If you think it's wrong, you definitely don't want to be taking the side of "it's normal," because whether or not it's normal is irrelevant when your government is doing immoral and tyrannical behavior in your name. |
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| ▲ | strictnein 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Weird response to a pretty benign question. Asking whether or not something is new or how frequently it's been done in the past isn't saying it's acceptable nor does it put them on the side of tyranny. In fact, a sign of tyranny would be a significant uptick in the number of these searches, and how else would you be able to see that worrying signal without answering the question they asked? |
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| ▲ | johnofthesea an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > Weird response to a pretty benign question. How was this question: > I think basically every country exercises this power | | |
| ▲ | strictnein an hour ago | parent [-] | | You quoted something that wasn't part of the question, which was "I'm wondering if this is a new thing". Their impression was that it wasn't and that other countries do similar things. Stating your understanding of a situation helps guide discussion and helps people answer your inquiries. Doing that should be encouraged, not somehow treated as an endorsement of tyranny. | | |
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| ▲ | soco an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | The best moment to fix this was yesterday. The second best time to fix it is now. | | |
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| ▲ | mc32 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Sure but that means November will have no impact on what CPB does. It’s always happened and will continue to happen just like stock trading with insider information by congress members will continue to happen regardless of November results. The vote came up and it was voted down and I don’t see that changing. I don’t see the spying on citizens changing. The NSA spied on Congress and they did nothing about it. It’s disingenuous to imply that November will have an effect on either of those topics. |
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| ▲ | gilrain 30 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Actually and very obviously, what's happening now is new and worse. | | |
| ▲ | dmitrygr 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | My math teacher used to say that “obviously” means “I don’t know how to prove” and “trivially” means “tenuously at best”. Thanks for the demo of this in action. It’s been a thing since 1789:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception | |
| ▲ | sixothree 20 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Enough alarm bells are ringing to suggest that this is not normal. The persecution of political enemies isn't even a veiled threat, they are spoken outright in public. | | |
| ▲ | mc32 17 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Right like the ~400 subpoenas on Republican lawmakers by Jack S with the tenuous linkage to the Jan riot. You might have reason to subpoena 10 or even 30 lawmakers who may have had some linkage but going after ~400 seems dubious. | | |
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| ▲ | mschuster91 14 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | An event like the Jan 6th putsch attempt would, in pretty much every democracy that has got some sense of self-preservation, result in at the very least intense public hearings, and outside of the European Union that bans the death penalty under all circumstances, followed by the chief perpetrators getting strung up at the same gallows they brought to hang Mike Pence off of. The fact that barely any consequences came for those instigating the putsch, with only a few of those dumb enough to do stuff like parade around in front of cameras, is completely inexcusable. | | |
| ▲ | mc32 3 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The brought a mock up of a gallows -the same kind other protesters bring to anti-Trump rallies. Should the punish people who went into the Congressional buildings? Yes! Do they need to subpoena ~400 lawmakers and $10 donors to the campaign? I think it’s obvious that that is overreach and intimidation. |
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| ▲ | totallymike an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
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