Too bad phones aren't easy to do a full back up of, wipe, then restore after you are past the border agents. Or can keep all user data on a microSD card that you remove and secure before the search.

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duskdozer 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Explain how? I've yet to find something reliable like this. At best you can have a decent number of apps automatically reinstalled to the original state, but not all, and most settings don't transfer, etc. And that requires root access, which most people don't have afaik.

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ssl-3 an hour ago | parent [-]

I used to do this kind of thing with TiBackup when Android phones were easy to play with and experimentation was more common.

I'd back up the phone to an SD card and/or send the backup offsite over the network.

After that, I could nuke whatever I wanted -- or factory reset it, switch to a different OS (we often called them "ROMs" back then), play with that for a bit, switch back and forth, or whatever.

When the time was right, I'd use TiBackup to restore the backup. It didn't even have to be the same phone. Apps and data were restored to where they had been. Home screens looked the same. Settings and preferences went back to how they were. The same web stuff remained in browser cache, alongside the same cookies.

There were occasional outliers that didn't come back perfectly, of course, but broadly speaking: It worked very well. Those outliers were few and easy to deal with.

This required root access. But for a time (years), that was easy.

(I will never accept any defense of any proclamations that we must be restricted from doing whatever the fuck we want with the hardware that we own. If I can do things with a desktop PC, then I should also be able to do those same things with a pocket computer.)

	▲	LWIRVoltage 16 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Elsewhere in this very thread I talk about how we need a modern solution for full true image backup for phones; I'm also an example of somebody who could use it, as I have phones where if I was to back up and wipe them I would lose the ability to use some extremely expensive old thermal cameras that work by attaching to them, - if I wiped and reinstalled, even having the apps, they require reaching out to servers for initial authentication that no longer exists. A full image backup would solve this. Rooting is now far more difficult unfortunately, and isn't even available mostly; but I don't see a real method to do a full proper image backup of phones today.
	▲	hckrme 17 minutes ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		> If I can do things with a desktop PC, then I should also be able to do those same things with a pocket computer. I understand the sentiment behind this argument, but please stop making the argument for freedom to do computing on own devices by making a comparison between desktop PC and pocket computers (mobile devices). I believe that the bad-faith actors are just gonna force same state of things on desktop PCs as well moving forward, instead of enabling freedom of compute on mobile devices.
	▲	duskdozer 21 minutes ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Yes, I also used Ti[tanium?] Backup, and now use NeoBackup. Those still don't quite hit the spot for me of a full and reliable backup. It's close in many ways, but I've found system settings to be largely nontransferable, and many times apps would just seem to break or crash after restoring. So I have no idea how people do anything close to it without root, although I suppose it's possible at this point if you use a Google account and apps they probably have something.
	▲	catlikesshrimp 30 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		You can buy an android which can easily be rooted if you want They might start restricting what you can do in your PC. Let's keep both free to modify in any way we want without comparison.

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piombisallow 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Or just take a different phone with you if you're that worried about it.

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ekejjedjndbd 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why not? I thought this was easy enough at least on apple.

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fransje26 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> that you remove and *secure* before the search.

In a dark body cavity?

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gib444 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For Apple at least, don't most users have ADP disabled, so the Gov has access to the data anyway?

And quite a bit of backed-up data on Android is not E2EE encrypted

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