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▲ mridulmalpani 2 hours ago

I wonder, why Google don't make Gemini - open weights model?

Considering, Gemini 4 is in the same ballpark as SOTA models, just open source it and kill any competition from openAI and Anthropic, and be market leader.

This will be so good on so many dimensions - buying time for Google to iterate on next model, best for all folks like us, kill funding or destroy valuation of competitors and force them to be open up their model or force them to a create a much superior model than open source Gemini.

Only downside, is revenue loss from Gemini API, which I am not sure is really significant as compared to Google other revenue sources and a part of this can be captured by GCP, as you need to host the model somewhere.

▲bitexploder a few seconds ago | parent | next [-]

No one on the planet could run a frontier model. The amount of VRAM you need would bankrupt a normal person.

I suspect most people don't have enough storage space to even download a frontier model.

▲tantalor an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://deepmind.google/models/gemma/

▲losvedir an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They do release the model weights for Gemma. But could anyone actually run Gemini 4 weights? It's probably like a 10T model, which you need an industrial rack for anyway.

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▲5555watch an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Google has a small stake in Anthropic

▲aviinuo an hour ago | parent | next [-]

A small stake on the order of a quarter trillion dollars

▲mridulmalpani an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, but I don't think, that is the primary reason.

I am just trying to understand - why Google haven't done and have no plans for it. They have done it for Android and have Gemma models too.

▲loufe an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

And a stake in SpaceX