I’m a CMU SCS alum (actually I predate SCS being a full school). Please, someone make me feel better about this. They’re renaming the school after this person.

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Maken 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Who cares? The entire university was named after the first guy who handed them money. It's their oldest tradition.

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t0mpr1c3 an hour ago | parent [-]

IIRC Carnegie was the original archetype of the rapacious union-busting wage-suppressing monopolistic billionaire robber baron, and Mellon was all that plus a corrupt self-dealing all-but-impeached laissez-faire Treasury-secretary-cum-megabanker whose deflationary and protectionist response to the Wall Street Crash caused unemployment and destitution on a historic scale.

But yeah this Griffin guy could give the place a bad name. (Full disclosure, I did a postdoc at the SCS.)

	▲	MengerSponge an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		At least those guys had the horse sense to understand the importance of giving something back to the public. The Carnegie libraries are a marvel. Their contemporary equivalents seem to be interested in speedrunning a revolution that ends badly for everyone.
	▲	mmooss an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Andrew Carnegie no longer has power or influence, so it doesn't matter. Griffin has both, and the school enhances it and becomes a vehicle for it. Will the Miami campus be free to violate Griffin's beliefs? Are 'woke' educational programs allowed?

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method_capital 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sure. It's $3B for your school. Who gives a shit what names the buildings have on them. I'll never understand you whiners.

$2B for new Miami campus (could have been in NYC, but well ...) $1B - split w $500M for CS Dept - for Pittsburg campus

"CMU Miami will invert the traditional higher education model by organizing learning and inquiry around societal challenges rather than academic majors. It will be entirely designed and built — from first blueprints to final beam — to drive revolutionary breakthroughs that address society’s defining challenges."

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duped 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

$3 billion dollars from a weirdo that fled to Florida because he was too cheap to pay his taxes, establishing a school to train more weirdos like him, a thousand miles from the actual school and presumably with different curricula/professors/degrees sounds like he's just buying CMU's name for legitimacy on his experimental anti-education project.

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BoggleOhYeah 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If anything, it could have been in Chicago but Kenny ran to Miami after spending a small fortune trying to install another puppet in the Illinois governor’s office after his previous one, Bruce Rauner, ran the state into the gutter.

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alephnerd 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Ken played a role in bringing the UIUC CS program to Chicago which itself is a major feeder into Citadel. Citadel was one of the founding partners for City Scholars [0] along with DRW and Ocient.

[0] - https://cityscholars.grainger.illinois.edu/

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BoggleOhYeah 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Considering that push into Chicago started with Rauner, I’m not surprised.

It was suppose to also include a large campus in the Loop but that floundered for years and was eventually cancelled when UIUC decided to instead be a partner in the new quantum computing center on the south side.

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shimman 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Are we suppose to feel good that more bright students are working for deeply undemocratic and anti-human companies? I'd rather these people do something more productive than helping financiers make slightly more billions of dollars.

What a complete waste of human capacity if so.

	▲	alephnerd 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		That is up to the students and alums of these programs. And many do non-profit and humanitarian work as well. The world is competitive. It is what it is. To have the power to affect change you need power.

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andrewla an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They're not "renaming" it -- they're "naming" it, right? The School of Computer Science is not currently named for anyone, and his $1B puts his name on the school. It's not like they're changing CMU to KGU.

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lanthissa 36 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

net net, 3 billion dollars is going out of of a rich persons pocket and into education.

thats a good thing.

also a cmu grad claiming the morality of the money going into education and naming rights matter is hilarious.

both its founders were worse than ken, and again at least hte money went to something good.

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hooloovoo_zoo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In my experience students will just keep using the old name (sometimes even the name before the old name) in perpetuity. With regard to the new campus, satellite campuses never carry the prestige of the mothership, for schools or companies.

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monknomo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm right there with you.

Renaming after this guy?

Miami?!

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wqtz an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do names really matter? Half of all Canadian universities has a building or a faculty named after "Schulich". Most people do not know who that person is.

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ro_bit 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Who is he?

	▲	pjmorris 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		CEO of Citadel Capital. He's one of the people featured in 'The Quants How a New Breed of Math Whizzes Conquered Wall Street and Nearly Destroyed It', Scott Patterson.
	▲	reticulates 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Boogeyman of the meme stocks
	▲	pinkmuffinere 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I think the CEO of Citadel Capital?

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alephnerd 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes and?

You went to a school who's founder was a robber baron (Carnegie) who deployed the army to put down a strike [0] and who's other founder (Mellon) caused the Great Depression [1] and whose family funded Trump 2 [2].

Alternatively, be happy CMU has more capital to continue to build programs.

Edit: can't reply

> To be fair, the Trumper is a different Mellon

It's the same family and Timothy Mellon is a direct descendent and heir of Andrew Mellon's

[0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead_strike

[1] - https://time.com/archive/6757394/the-cabinet-death-of-mellon...

[2] - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9eed9g3vlyo

	▲	t0mpr1c3 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		That's watermelon under the bridge. Honeydew you even realise, the Trumper is some useless offspring from the 3rd or 4th degeneration. Like, the Tiffany Trump of Mellons. A petty pilferer among robber aristocracy. He probably never locked out a workforce in his whole life.