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▲ specproc an hour ago

Not Russian, but spent a lot of time out east.

Russia is reflexively anti-NATO as NATO is reflexively anti-Russia.

NATO is an alliance that was created in opposition to the Soviet Union. NATO has absorbed parts of the former Soviet Union.

Western companies pillaged Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union. Rightly or wrongly, Putin owes a lot of his original popularity to dealing with the aftermath.

Russia, rightly or wrongly, sees colour revolutions as intelligence operations, and territorial conquest.

Russia cannot accept NATO forces on its borders.

NATO is providing decisive material, political, logistical, financial and intelligence support to Ukraine, precisely to bog it down and drain it.

These are all pretty normal perspectives for most Russians. They're arguably pretty based, and not necessarily a product of internal propaganda campaigns.

The thing that westerners don't get about Russia, and the reason we're stuck in this Godforsaken conflict, is that we personalise things around Putin. We think that if Putin dies, everything will magically improve.

The decision to invade was Putin's, but the rationale goes much deeper and will outlast him.

▲someonebaggy 41 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Russia cannot accept NATO forces on its borders.

This is such obvious bullshit. Russia already has NATO on its borders, and is attempting to expand it's borders so they will contact even more of NATO.