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▲ throwaway713 an hour ago

> we ask them to stop testing advanced mathematical problems on proprietary models.

Maybe I'm alone on this, but for some reason these sorts of requests strike me as akin to gatekeeping how someone should breathe air. It's math... the numbers and symbols are just out there in the platonic realm available for anyone to do as they like with them. It's patently absurd to request other people to stop.

Ensuring credit where credit is due? That's fine. If your model incorporates the efforts of many others, then it's reasonable to request acknowledgement of everyone who contributed (even indirectly). But that's not what the request states — presumably their ask subsumes any advanced ML model, including those that weren't trained on a giant corpus of text.

▲Joker_vD 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> gatekeeping how someone should breathe air. It's math... the numbers and symbols are just out there in the platonic realm available for anyone to do as they like with them. It's patently absurd to request other people to stop.

The chemical compounds of all kinds are also out there, available for anyone to do as they like with them. Say, mixing ammonium chlorate with peroxide, why not? Or potassium permanganate with powdered aluminum. It's patently absurd to request other people to stop.

▲pfisch 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

It's illegal to make weapons out of chemicals because the government has a monopoly on violence.

Mix together whatever you want, and then you can fight the feds when they show up to enforce their monopoly.

▲Davidzheng an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You're not alone, even among mathematicians.

▲mmaunder an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Humans have been trying to outlaw thinking for some time now.

▲xanderlewis 32 minutes ago | parent [-]

What (some) mathematicians are asking for, whether one agrees with it or not, is exactly the opposite of 'outlawing thinking'.