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▲ why_at 2 hours ago

I can see how LLMs might be useful for this kind of thing but I'm struggling to think of how this will be better than just asking ChatGPT the same questions.

The first suggestion I saw was "I just got married, how do I change my last name?"

It tells you to update your Social Security info first and gives you some helpful links.

ChatGPT tells me the same things with some of the same links. It didn't even have to ask if I was in America because it found my state based off my IP I assume.

▲bee_rider a few seconds ago | parent | next [-]

In a sane world the US government’s chatbot would have the advantage that, as a representative of the government that they proactively decided to provide, it would at least be able to speak authoritatively on the government’s position on the law. Apparently this isn’t the case, though, so it seems sort of pointless?

▲Levitating 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

ChatGPT is a private paid service. Don't you think it's good that your government provides this independently and for free?

▲why_at 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah that's a fair point. We shouldn't have to rely on private companies for this kind of thing.

On the other hand this is just going through one or more of the big AI companies anyway. So they still get data from users, now we're just funding them with our taxes instead of using one of many LLM interfaces available for free.

The privacy policy actually looks OK though, I'll be interested to see what the EFF has to say.

▲doc_ick 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You think the government is paying to manage/self host/run this llm and not just outsourcing it to chatgpt?

▲jonhohle an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The government cannot do anything “for free”. One we are forced to pay for by law and the other we can choose to pay for or not.

▲tyrabound an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’m a bit torn on that matter. I haven’t looked into it, but I suspect it’s not some kind of specialized foundational model trained to be a federal agent.

It’s likely just a mask of either ChatGPT and probably through some massively bloated, nepotistic federal contract. There may be some additional guidelines and instructions but it’s probably not RAG on anything that isn’t publicly slay accessible to any other model, even if it is hard limited to federal sites/domains.

In addition to what others have said, ChatGPT is also available free and without an account I believe. What are you more likely to think of when you have a question, your AI service you already use and have your information in and maybe even has access to your documents, or are you going to remember to go to America.gov for basic chat AI?

Frankly, it would be really interesting to benchmark it against the other models when it comes to accomplishing things related to the government, i.e. Which information is more accurate, useful, and actionable.

There’s also another matter I find a bit troubling depending on the nature of how this came about, it could also be something that creates an inextricable incumbency in whichever AI company is behind it, i.e., how Microsoft has become a kind of parasite on government and thereby on corporations for many decades now.

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▲gabbagool 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I know what you're saying, but OpenAI is an independent, profit driven company. They will make decisions that are in the best interests of the company, not the US. You really need something that is for the people (taxpayers), by the people (gov).

Edit: Nevermind, someone made this point already.

▲cousinbryce 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

ChatGPT will be full of ads soon. No one should go to FreeTaxUSA.com when they are trying to go to the IRS

▲nxobject 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Come to think about it, if I was able to get America.gov to do my taxes, would Intuit come with their lobbyists and shut it down?

▲m348e912 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, without a doubt.

▲shusaku an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The whole industry is dealing with this now. You think current AI is not reliable enough for a task, so you augment it with know how to fix the problem, thoroughly test it, then decide to release it as a product. In the six months you took to do that, models improved enough that they work fine out of the box on your task.