It is so transparently obvious and harmful what they are doing here.

You making the argument that these models exist and are dangerous (plausible, true, likely) but then removing the cyber capabilities of your own frontier models out of 'safety' is a complete nonsense argument. You're stripping defenders' ability to defend whilst knowing stuff like this is out there, and only giving access to your gatekept super cool kids' (or rich kids) club, and then to top it off, using this as an excuse for government intervention/regulation of models that are threats to you competitively.

Just gross all around.

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mysterEFrank 20 minutes ago | parent [-]

Ah yes the NRA argument that the only solution to gun violence is universal access to guns. API users can be monitored open weights users can't. Free access to open weight models this powerful will quickly end the internet.

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JohnMakin 16 minutes ago | parent [-]

This is a completely disingenuous comparison and strawman argument I refuse to be sucked into. The National Rifle Association is a gun lobby. I am a person on the internet, and someone tasked often with defensive security, making the completely non-analogous argument that cybersecurity capabilities should not only be provided to a gatekeeper with dubious intentions.

I don't really need to expand further. What are you proposing to do, enforce bans on every open weight model all over the world? Monitor every user's computer that has a network connection? What are you proposing, exactly, and how much Anthropic stock do you own?

	▲	mysterEFrank 7 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I own no anthropic or frontier lab stock. Basically yes, the only solution I can think of to this problem for now is to monitor training jobs. Why does it matter that you're not an organization? I could just as easily have said a member of the NRA.