Well - Tcl is dying though. So he was not entirely wrong.

One can not even find it on TIOBE but one can find COBOL there:

https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

(TIOBE is horrible, but still.)

It's in decent company in the Redmonk graphs[1], in the vicinity of Smalltalk, Mathematica, D, and Haxe.

[1]: https://redmonk.com/sogrady/2026/04/14/language-rankings-1-2...