I saw a post from someone who worked in the scene recently, seems they were someone famous. I don’t follow things so I’m not sure. Basically they were giving up because new people to the scene were just discovering things with AI and then immediately disclosing them to the world, allowing Sony to patch them before they really got used.

It sounded like things may have changed.

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arprocter 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Might've been 'PS5 Linux lead quits: "a bunch of noobs using LLMs" that "they don't understand"'

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49727627

	▲	MBCook 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I didn’t see it here, but I do believe that’s it!

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Synthetic7346 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sucks for the hoarder, but that is indeed how bug bounties are supposed to work. The first reporter gets the payout, disincentivizing sitting on valid vulns.

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alias_neo 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Unfortunately the goal here wasn't to get the bounty, it was to keep it out of the hands of Sony who'll patch it.

The issue, as I understood it in this case was that he wanted it kept quiet until GTA6 launches, because announcing it to the public also announces it to Sony, and they'll patch it; normally that's fine, everyone just doesn't update, but given GTA6 is apparently quite popular, my understanding is that he wanted to let everyone get that one last update that allows GTA6 to run before they're stuck on that version.

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MBCook 2 hours ago | parent [-]

That was my sense. It takes time to figure out how to use a bug as an exploit.

So normally if the community found this stuff I guess they’d work together to make a jailbreak. Maybe they already were working on that with bug X but hadn’t told anyone.

The JoeClaudeUser posts publicly “Hey everyone I found bug X over here! I’m awesome!”.

Now it can’t be used because Sony will fix it. If they had already been using it behind closed doors all that work is flushed.

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alias_neo 2 hours ago | parent [-]

That's exactly how I understand it, and from further reading, it seems Sony has now patched it already so it's game over.

	▲	MBCook 35 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Makes sense. In their position it would be stupid not to.
	▲	doctorpangloss 30 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		There's no logic to any of it, Sony can run LLMs too!

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nicce 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think the hoarder just wanted to have rooted PS5

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kevin_thibedeau 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Plot twist: They're actually TLA staffers who don't want their backdoors burned.

	▲	MBCook 35 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Those highly valuable PS5 exploits for spying on foreign leaders?

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ctippett 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I noticed this exact flavour of frustration in the webOS jailbreak scene. Some newcomer proudly announced a vulnerability they found only to be met with hostility because it was seen as premature and unnecessary given there was already an existing jailbreak available that had yet to be patched.

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jhatemyjob 36 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

even before AI it was like this for at least 10 years. reverse engineering skills for consumer hardware was kind of rare so people could sit on vulns for a while. by 2015 a lot of people who were kids/teenagers in the golden era of Wii/PS3/iPhone jailbreaking finally developed the skills the old guard had, but with none of the morals/restraint. which completely saturated everything. I feel like the last decent homebrew scene was with the 3DS. and you gotta thank smea for that, if he didn't have the restraint to wait for the N3DS, things might have turned out differently