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▲ abixb 4 hours ago

What bothers me about this whole AI tokenomics situation is the lack of transparency. OpenAI and Anthropic have to perhaps be the most opaque companies in existence wrt their offerings. There's like a thousand variables that they can change on the backend at the push of a button which can wildly swing API spends within the same model (partly also due to the non-deterministic nature of LxMs, but still), and there's no objective way to measure them other than vibes.

When the regulations do arrive, I think they should really focus on AI companies and API providers being more transparent wrt how they're billing their customers. Because right now, it's a totally vibes-dependent and a mess.

▲MintsJohn 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

And it's all measured in "intelligence", a completely meaningless term. For coding i'd be much more interested in how much context actually works, what the complexity of algorithms it can understand and create is, for what languages. How much it manages to follow existing structures or that is just adds ad-hoc machinery to pass the test, etc etc.

A smaller model in the same generation will never be the same as a bigger one, assuming this is a smaller model, and the same generation, as naming implies, it will not be comparable, it might be on the benchmarks, even on the benchmarks that matter, but the whole story should also give the drawbacks.

▲KeplerBoy 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's still insane that they stopped showing you all the tokens you pay for. They could inflate the billed reasoning token amount by a lot before it would raise any eyebrows.

▲ldng 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Internet Ad business has been like that for a long time with bot click & Co.

▲mlmonkey 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Ain't that the truth.

In Search Advertising, the amount you pay (under GSP Auction) is a function of your pCTR. And guess who determines your pCTR? The Search Engine itself! :-D

▲kruipen 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Totally hand-wavy and non-objective ... just like how employees are billing their employers.

▲zer00eyz 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's all Gacha for business.

▲catigula 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, you might get away with a singular 'wrt' with some consternation, but two?