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▲ honkycat 4 hours ago

My Macbook Pro is my favorite emulator machine, and CrossOver is incredibly good at running most of the games I want to play.

OSX has also recently released a proton-style compat layer so we are seeing gains there as well.

For a long time Apple was outright AGAINST games. They wanted their machines to be for musicians and artists, not bratty kids.

▲bigyabai 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Apple is still against games. Next year they'll remove Rosetta 2, and all the games that require it will stop working. There's no upcoming Vulkan drivers, or upstream support for Proton. CrossOver is expensive and incomplete.

The best gaming hardware will always be the hardware you keep on you; be it a phone, GameBoy, or a Mac. macOS is basically last-place in supporting PC gaming though, and Apple has no qualms letting it die again.

▲nxc18 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They’ve stated an intent to exempt games specifically:

> Beyond this date, we will maintain a subset of Rosetta features designed to support older, unmaintained games that rely on Intel frameworks.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/102527

▲bigyabai 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Ah, good catch. Gotta keep Tomb Raider around for a few more keynotes, I suppose.

▲honkycat 29 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

i was referring to the game porting toolkit, didn't know about rosetta 2 deprecation though, disappointing.

honestly, I just use it for emulators like PS2 Dreamcast etc...

▲bigyabai 21 minutes ago | parent [-]

All good. I'm just frustrated at Apple for letting macOS fall behind Asahi on features like FEX and Vulkan support.

Mac users deserve to have a platform where games and software work forever once you buy it. It doesn't take much work on Apple's behalf to support it, so it's worrying to see them shift away from well-maintained software stacks and industry-spanning standards to focus on their own fragile runtimes.