This feels like a mass-market push.

The cost is going to be hard for many consumers to reconcile though. Free, Go, and Plus are probably the most popular consumer-facing plans, and Dots isn't available on any of those.

Who knows, maybe they think enterprise will pick up and run with Dots? Seems unlikely.

▲ preommr 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Incredibly obvious to anyone paying attention.

Altman shared a post yesterday that basically (I am ovrsimplifying) covered how the best coding, fastest, smartest models is less relevant than building generalist models because that's what builds a platform. Lots of reasons why, like how there's no stickiness for models which is a problem for monetization. They're also using these generalist models to then distill down to make other variants for specialized purposes.

So everything is about getting that huge collection of data and generalization.

▲ CharlieDigital 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

    > ...maybe they think enterprise will pick up and run with Dots? Seems unlikely.

Read the blurb about Microsoft and Agent 365

    > We’re also working with Microsoft to integrate specialist dots with their enterprise governance and security controls in Agent 365. The goal is to let businesses manage dots through the Microsoft tools they already use.

Very, very likely targeting enterprise

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cartersj 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Is Microsoft finding real success with their AI push?

Genuine question. I don't hold Copilot in high regard, but I know they're bigger than that one product.

	▲	CharlieDigital 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Would have to look at their quarterlies. Reality: there are some companies that are very, very particular about letting their data outside of their purview. Think Wall Street, private equity teams making deals, VC teams, corporate M&A teams, companies dealing with legal contracts, etc. For these teams that are heavily vested in SharePoint, OneDrive, OneNote, Outlook, etc. specifically for their enterprise controls, there really isn't much option. They can't use a Grok Bot, can't use Muse, can't use many, many things because of the risk of data leaks that will literally be millions/billions of dollars on the line. You look at the landscape of what's happening with OpenAI and Anthropic agents "escaping", leaving notes on how to hack their way out for the next agent, etc. and it's not very inspiring if you're a CISO/CIO/CTO at one of these firms.

▲ therealdrag0 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Oh wow I assumed it’d be available for cheap/free mass market like Muse is. Strange.

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sanex 6 hours ago | parent [-]

It's powered by Astra who will blow through your $20 plan in about 10 minutes

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therealdrag0 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sure but that’s a product decision. I don’t think a personal assistant needs to use highest tier model, and personal assist work tends to be kinda shallow, not that tile heavy.

	▲	sanex 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yeah personally I use 3 levels of agents. My main who is either a sonnet or opus, he delegates complicated things to a project lead which is usually fable, and then he delegates everything to the dumbest possible model for the task.

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bluebands 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

it doesn't use limits and it's not on $20 plan

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thimabi 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Doesn’t use limits… on the first month only, actual limits will be disclosed later — most likely after they’ve found out how much people actually use this new feature.

	▲	rolosa 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The website says there are usage limits, implying from the regular pool once you actually have it "do" stuff. --- Conversations with your dot don’t count toward your ChatGPT usage limits. When you ask your dot to start or manage tasks in Codex or ChatGPT Work, those tasks count toward your usage limits as usual.

▲ rolosa 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's not reaching mass market if it's gated behind a $100/month plan

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cousinbryce 7 hours ago | parent [-]

People who are bad with money is a big market. Maybe they’re using the Burts Bees strategy

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lxgr 6 hours ago | parent [-]

If they wanted to address that market, the play would be to make them relatively cheap first, then constantly raise the price. (See also: cable TV and ironically cable TV "alternatives")

	▲	the_sleaze_ 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		That IS what they're doing. The surprise is your idea of "relatively cheap" is fungible. The service WILL be astounding though, I can't deny that.

▲ FrustratedMonky 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Good to know. I was looking around for it. Didn't realize it wasn't bundled with Plus.