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▲ lapcat 44 minutes ago

> I was explaining to you why the advent of the mobile phone has at least a role in the reduction of socialising by making it easier for people to shut down visits.

I agree that mobile phones have a role in the reduction of socializing.

However, I don't agree with the reason you've given, and I have at least two objections:

1. Mobile phones don't actually shut down unplanned socializing. On the contrary, they make it easier to have unplanned socializing, because they allow you to contact another person no matter when or where either of you happen to be.

2. There's no empirical evidence that a significant number of unexpected visits in the past were unwanted. Surely some were, but not nearly enough IMO to explain the dramatic reduction of in-person socializing.

My theory, in contrast, is that the ubiqiutious internet access of smartphones has addicted people to the practically limitless forms of entertainment and attention-grabbing online, and this internet browsing has usurped in-person socializing as a pastime. This change has nothing to do with how easy or hard it is to arrange visits. People have stopped dropping by because they don't want to drop by, not because they can't conveniently drop by.

For the same reason, people have also cut down on non-social activities like reading books. They aren't replacing socializing with book reading.

> You dismissed fiction earlier, for no good reason: A widespread trope doesn't arise in a vacuum.

I dismissed fiction because it deliberately exaggerates for effect, e.g., comedic effect. There may be a grain of truth to it, but fiction by definition is not an accurate reflection of reality.

> I struggle to see why you find it hard to understand,

I'm not struggling to understand. I simply disagree with your analysis.

> so I'm leaning towards thinking you're being intentionally obtuse about it at this point.

You can lean whatever way you want, but you're wrong, and you're also wrong about me "forgetting" the rest of the world when the submitted article is explicitly about the United States: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49894515