| ▲ | thinkingtoilet an hour ago | |||||||||||||||||||
Let us also acknowledged that we're living in the safest time in history and modern American cities are extremely safe, despite the unhinged propaganda from the right. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | monideas an hour ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||
I don’t think public parks in the 1950s in America were filled with used heroin needles and homeless people strung out or defecating. You can correct me if I’m wrong though. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | pj_mukh 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||
The usual retort here is that the anxiety driving the adoption of Flock can't be seen in crime statistics (which is mostly measuring partner/family crimes ala "murder rate is down"). The random smattering of shoplifting is never reported, the unhoused man in a fit of rage yelling at passers-by is never filed with the police. But in the privacy of the voting booth, people will vote for more Flock cameras. Instead of waving off concerns we should be addressing them better. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | ericmay 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||
We can acknowledge that and also acknowledge that a lot of petty crime goes unreported/unresolved because the police can't do anything, and that our target should still be 0 crime and folks are entitled to be upset about any amount of crime. Recent example I have is a work truck behind my neighbors house in the alleyway. Parked for less than 5 minutes, went inside a garage to look at something, came back, and someone had already walked off with their tools. I sort of got the guy who did it on video which I provided to the person who was victimized, but who knows if anything ever really came of it. Probably not. Does that actually show up in crime statistics? I bet it doesn't. What is also missing here is that even if there is not criminal activity occurring, there is a general influx of highly anti-social behavior occurring that feeds in to the perception that higher rates of criminal activity occurring. This is very noticeable when you see people casually running red lights, driving without registration, yelling and screaming at people on the street or at the bus stop, and more. Even if I'm unlikely to be a victim of a crime, I don't feel safe when these anti-social behaviors are occurring, people are shoplifting and now going to CVS feels like going to a third-world country. Framing this as right-wing propaganda I believe is a mistake and if you are a leftist it just loses elections for you because even if the folks who are concerned about crime levels are wrong (they're not though) the perception matters much more than reality. Denying the perception implies you deny the reality too and fewer people are going to vote in favor of candidates who tell them that what they see for themselves isn't happening. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | hollerith 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||
Some American cities like St Louis, Baltimore, Memphis, New Orleans have averaged about 50 homicides per 100,000 per year over the last 10 years. Detroit averaged about 40. It is not "unhinged propaganda from the right" for people living in those cities to wonder why the rate cannot be 1 or 2 per 100,000 like it is in most European cities and many American suburbs. Except for a few years in the early 2000s, London's rate has stayed below 2.5 for the last 250 years. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | nxm 26 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||
Thanks to the border actually not being wide open due to Trump, all violent crime is down across the US | ||||||||||||||||||||
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