Concrete examples to verify such claims please? Also in civilized countries such things are decided by the justice system, not the government (which to the surprise of many simple minded people - like a certain US president and his fanbase - is independent from the government).

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pc86 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

In what universe is the judiciary not part of the government?

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bunderbunder an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Government is a term with multiple senses.

In the US it’s common to only use it to describe the entire apparatus for holding, administering and enforcing state power.

But it can also be used to mean the current ruling power in a parliamentary system together with the administrative bodies under its direct control. So something more akin to just the executive branch in the US system. And then certain state agencies such as the judiciary are meant to be independent of the government under that meaning of the term. I believe this is the most common understanding of the word outside the US.

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edgyquant 44 minutes ago | parent [-]

Its a really weird use of the word government to not actually refer to the government but to the executive and saying the “courts are outside of the government” makes it seem like they aren’t a part of the state.

	▲	bunderbunder 26 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Why is it so weird that a language as widely spoken as English should have dialectical variation? Wait ‘til you find out what some of my friends mean when they say “pavement”.
	▲	flohofwoe 33 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		The important point is that courts have the power to overrule unconstitutional or unlawful government decisions.

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flohofwoe an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Germany for instance? Google "Bundesverfassungsgericht". I don't think such a separated checks and balances system is all that unusual in democratic countries. A major task of a "proper" justice system is to keep the government in check.

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sholladay 30 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It is, but in casual conversation, “government” often means the people/party currently in power (of the executive and/or legislature).

You can see this when people say “[X] is unable to form a government”. They don’t mean unable to form a judiciary.

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mhh__ an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is only really true in certain countries that don't really do democracy. In Britain for example parliament is sovereign.

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rapsey an hour ago | parent [-]

Farage was debanked. So was Trump and Melania, AfD politicians, Le Penn in france.

	▲	mhh__ 43 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I may have misread the topic of conversation but he was debanked by a private bank - I was arguing against juristocracy but possibly incorrectly aimed
	▲	flohofwoe 13 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		From what I can read on various news sites, not even LePenn blamed the government directly. All those cases were either business decisions of companies who can freely decide who they want as customers, or quickly overturned as unlawful by judges. It would be good if you did at least a minimal amount of due diligence before spreading misinformation (but I guess spreading misinformation is the whole point).

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ecshafer an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The concrete example would be Canada "debanking" the truckers who protested in Ottawa for exercising their GOD given right to free speech. Another concrete example would be Germany having banks close accounts for the AFD and AFD related people.

	▲	flohofwoe 42 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Some basic googling would tell you that: 1. the AfD thing was the decision of individual banks, not of the German government. Basically, in a free world companies can decide who they want to do business with. 2. the Canadian trucker "debanking" was quickly resolved because the Canadian justice system did their job and overruled the unlawful "emergency" government order