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| ▲ | Waterluvian an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| I think what makes this resemble a moronic idea is it’s a thin veneer of an invention based on your personal stereotyped perspective. The real challenge, if you wanted to work on the meat of the issue, is that we need to reduce crime without catching the innocent in the net, without having a chilling effect on legal behaviour and people’s rights, and without normalizing the mindset that we should just precrime people. One of the core points of Minority Report is in the film’s title: that even if technology becomes 99.99% accurate, we are still damned by the destruction of due process and the presumption of innocence. I think ideas like yours belong in the incinerator. |
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| ▲ | pjc50 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | The unlicensed ebike, while not a serious problem, is a really annoying one in certain places, and everybody suspects that it's not a wave of people doing it but in fact a fairly small number of people doing antisocial things over and over again. Who are relying on being untraceable and on a versatile getaway vehicle. https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2025/11/thirteen-e-bikes-... Note that "illegal motorbike with no plates" is an offense that you can detect just by looking at it. There's no "pre" in the crime. The problem is either stopping them or tracing them. | |
| ▲ | some_random 27 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The balaclava thing is stupid, but you're missing the point that they're already doing something illegal. If you think anti-ebike law is stupid then that law should be repealed, not ignored. | |
| ▲ | b112 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | While what you say has merit in isolation, you're replying to a post where the person says "they're already doing illegal things". If the cameras pick up people "breaking the law", using further algo on that seems... sensible? EG, the gatekeep is 'already should get a ticket or something'. I actually oppose all cameras, and think we should just have more police in the streets. It's how policing used to be done. Human judgement. | |
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| ▲ | MSFT_Edging 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| In the age of everything being filmed in a panopticon, I look at the teens wearing balaclava and wonder where they bought theirs. Good on them for having a modicum of privacy. |
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| ▲ | someonebaggy an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Is arresting someone for (what fact about?) their scooter actually making society better? Comments like these reinforce my belief that the UK is a panopticon because UK residents sincerely want one and not because the government is corrupt. |
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| ▲ | benbristow an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Yes, they actively make public spaces unpleasant and dangerous. Town centres are on their knees as people don't want to go there anymore due to ASB like this. | | |
| ▲ | someonebaggy 40 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Wow! How bad does a scooter have to be for people to avoid the whole town center? | | |
| ▲ | benbristow 37 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It's not just them, you've got ebikes going 30mph, kids/teens congregating on bikes in balaclavas. Come look for yourself and see if you don't feel intimidated. | | |
| ▲ | someonebaggy 7 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Oh! I live somewhere like that. I just don't be intimidated by things unless I have a reason to be intimidated. Although scary looking people congregate sometimes, they've never actually harmed me so I don't avoid the whole area. And the few times I've ever interacted with a scary looking person, they were chill. Tendency to fear has to be one of those personality axes. Studies found that political conservatives have larger amygdala (the part of their brain that governs things like fear) so maybe this is something similar. |
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| ▲ | sebzim4500 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Is arresting someone for (what fact about?) their scooter actually making society better? In London people are scooters are often mildly annoying. >Comments like these reinforce my belief that the UK is a panopticon because UK residents sincerely want one and not because the government is corrupt. You are correct, despite what you will see on HN/reddit the UK electorate are united only in wanting more authoritarianism at any cost. |
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| ▲ | adammarples an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Trouble is you'd be scooping up 90% of boys in a certain race, class, age bracket, because those ballys and bikes and Nike tech are effectively fashion at this point even if you're doing nothing wrong. And if that's the case you don't need AI you can just wait outside the school gates and arrest everyone. |
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| ▲ | benbristow an hour ago | parent [-] | | Those are the types likely to be committing a lot of the crimes. Come to a working class town and see for yourself, or go on any local town Facebook group or council page and look at the comments. | | |
| ▲ | mikeodds 7 minutes ago | parent [-] | | This comment is being downvoted but I suspect the people downvoting don’t live in those towns. |
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