| ▲ | Show HN: Raven – The harness of harnesses, built for RSI(github.com) |
| 15 points by cyfyifanchen 3 hours ago | 14 comments |
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| ▲ | jeffnash 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| Reminds me a lot of omnigent (which I am a huge fan of) with a persistent memory layer. Unlike omnigent's subagent threads, the DAG it uses to coordinate other harnesses doesn't look to be durable; I am curious as to whether this is by design or is a forthcoming feature, as this essentially makes or breaks my use case of long-running project-sized implementation sessions. In any event, it's great to see competition in this meta-harness space, which is likely one that none of the frontier labs will touch since it, by definition, would utilize their competitors' products. |
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| ▲ | ssddanbrown an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| RSI here is for "recursive self-improvement", instead of a harness being built to help users with repetitive strain injury like I first thought when reading the post title |
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| ▲ | wafflemaker 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | A very popular yoga kata called sun salutations (available in various versions depending on your fitness/advancement level) helped me get rid of wrist and thumb RSI. It stretches and gently stresses these load bearing ;) joints, thus strengthening them. Hope this helps the last few folk before searching for RSI will be impossible due to the term being taken over. For those afraid of Satanism in yoga, there's also non satanic variants where you don't greet each other saying Namaste or say Shanti anywhere during the practice. | | |
| ▲ | brookst 7 minutes ago | parent [-] | | As long as we’re burying things for archaeologists to find, let it be known that AGI once stood for “adjusted gross income”, a measure used for income taxes. |
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| ▲ | broodbucket 13 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | We gotta do something about these clashing TLAs. | | |
| ▲ | brookst 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | A register is the obvious choice, but of course then you get a gold rush and people squatting on XPZ and stuff without even having invented an opaque term behind it. | |
| ▲ | gpm 11 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Perhaps modelling acronyms in TLA+ will help? |
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| ▲ | arminluschin 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This looks similar to https://paseo.sh/, if I understand correctly. I’ve recently tried it and liked it a lot. Would be nice to see a comparison. When’s the harness of harnesses of harnesses coming? |
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| ▲ | jfaat 6 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I'm using paseo heavily too. The main differences here seem to be around how opinionated Raven's orchestration is. They're providing agents, workflows, memory, skills, etc. Paseo gives you some orchestration tools but it's mostly letting the 'native' harnesses do the work. For my workflow, I'm interested in some of what they're doing here but I'm not in buying into their whole system (markdown for memory and calling it RSI, as someone else called out, is not doing it for me). The follow up actions and meta-harness tuning look pretty cool. They also don't ship an app which is one of the best parts of paseo. Then again Paseo's perf leaves a lot to be desired. |
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| ▲ | aatd86 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Interesting. Only thing, from someone who has built something similar, is that it moght tend to duplicate certain capabilities that those harnesses handle on their own. Some overlap is bound to happen. |
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| ▲ | brookst 3 minutes ago | parent [-] | | This, and also they have to chase changes in model tuning and capabilities. I have a nice little meta-harness focused on product development (requiremwnts, acceptance criteria) for Claude code, and when major new models come it it’s weeks before I can find and fix constraints that are no longer necessary + constraints that have become necessary. |
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| ▲ | revexos 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Recursion has started. Here we go! |
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| ▲ | PcChip 44 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I wish they had also compared it to omp and dsh, I’m curious how it stacks up |
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| ▲ | mpalmer 38 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Agents editing their prompts and writing memory to markdown files is not and will never be RSI. |